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[Old_Slapper]

I know the Dayton home audio is pretty decent. You're saying they are comparable to JL? RE Audio makes a really good sounding sub. It's too bad they don't get better recognition for their subs.

 

[HardofWhoring]

I read this and... I'll just let you keep it. This is all info that the news outlets are reporting. I see nothing was researched for facts.

I'm not here to argue about politics. I'm not here to get you to change your mind. I can point out each item and correct it, but I know it will be more of a waste of my time. For example, Trump actually brought more jobs and more industries back to the US. Look at the major car manufacturers. He did end up releasing his taxes, and Gerald Ford is the one who didn't release them. As for releasing taxes, the House and Senate sees all of their taxes. It's just the public. If anything was illegal, then the House and Senate would prosecute.

As I mentioned, I work for the government. Of course, you might be saying "SO!" which you have a right to do. Buy like you, with your company, you will see issues that nobody else will. In my position, I see things that you will not hear from any news outlet. For example, I have been in meetings with Mayors telling their law enforcement to allow protesters to cause some damage. "This is to show the seriousness of their cause!" My two fellow employees are democrat but will not vote for the current offerings and are extremely disgusted by our current governor. They were floored with the crap they finally get to see.

I see this conversation is turning heated and not friendly. As mentioned, it's time to move on.

I don't believe you are this stupid. I think you are a troll. You just lie and deflect in every comment you make in here.


How stupid do you think we are to believe this horse shit?

Nope. I'm not trying to defend the big orange or the attorney who said it. I think it is wrong for that law to be legal. I think if anyone does that, they should be held prosecuted and hung, if found guilty. I only made that last statement because you made that last statement to me. It was more of a shoulder nudge than an insult. I cons

Guys,
I'm not trying to defend Trump. As I mentioned, he is not a great guy. Like Bumbling Biden, I don't like to hear him talk. It annoys me even more to hear about his tweets. I'm just looking at the current state of the country and when he was in charge. I don't like paying $6 per gallon of gas. I don't like my job being so much worse because of all the crime I have to deal with, I don't like paying as much as $34 for a flat of eggs, I don't like having to pay higher medical costs because we now have to pay for the medical of all of these illegal immigrants, I don't like living paycheck-to-paycheck when I'm making well above $100k a year. I don't like my kids coming home with a letter threatening detention because they accidentally misgendered another student. And I don't like hearing about us getting into these foreign wars and catering to China.

Now, enough of politics.

What I really want to know is, what happened to all the really good name brand car audio companies? JL is good, but not worth their costs, IMHO.

That's all you've done. Every comment you made in here is made up bullshit, and deflected. You are just lying sack of shit.

 

[Old_Slapper]

Wow. Now you lead to name calling. LOL... Because someone doesn't have the same beliefs you do, gives you a reason to use profanity and crude insults towards them? That shows your maturity level.

I can right write a huge post on where your information lacks facts, but you have way too much skin into hating Trump that your pride will not allow you to confess you may have been wrong in judging him so poorly. You even call me a liar because I debunked your facts.

Sure, some items you mentioned have SOME truth to it, but most of it is false. Just typical hate verbiage towards Trump by the media. If you really want to make yourself appear as being more knowledgeable in your arguments, practice what professional debaters do and research both sides of an argument. In other words, do some REAL research on why people support Trump.

You stated you only vote democrat. I don't. I didn't vote for Trump the first time or last time. I only defended him against your false accusations. If you made false accusations towards Biden, I would defend him also.

Say what you want. I am done discussing this with you because, as I mentioned, your ego will not allow you see what is really going on and why the democrat party is having the biggest exodus in history. Continue to insult me all you like. You're just a keyboard warrior, living in your mom's basement, who gets all huffy and puffy because there are people that don't have your same opinions.

He called me a troll. LOL... goes to show he doesn't know the meaning of the word. You call Trump a baby, seams like you can relate.

 

[HardofWhoring]

Wow. Now you lead to name calling. LOL... Because someone doesn't have the same beliefs you do, gives you a reason to use profanity and crude insults towards them? That shows your maturity level.

deflecting

I can right write a huge post on where your information lacks facts, but you have way too much skin into hating Trump that your pride will not allow you to confess you may have been wrong in judging him so poorly. You even call me a liar because I debunked your facts.

childish nonsense.

Sure, some items you mentioned have SOME truth to it, but most of it is false. Just typical hate verbiage towards Trump by the media. If you really want to make yourself appear as being more knowledgeable in your arguments, practice what professional debaters do and research both sides of an argument. In other words, do some REAL research on why people support Trump.

That is you admitting you are just a liar that talks out of your ***.

You stated you only vote democrat. I don't. I didn't vote for Trump the first time or last time. I only defended him against your false accusations. If you made false accusations towards Biden, I would defend him also.

Nope, sure didn't. No you haven't. You haven't said one thing that isn't pro-trump or anti-biden so far. ALL YOU DO IS LIE AND TALK OUT OF YOUR ***.

Say what you want. I am done discussing this with you because, as I mentioned, your ego will not allow you see what is really going on and why the democrat party is having the biggest exodus in history. Continue to insult me all you like. You're just a keyboard warrior, living in your mom's basement, who gets all huffy and puffy because there are people that don't have your same opinions.

That's a pathetic rebuttal. "my ego"? You're just using canned responses that you don't even know the definition to.
deflection,
and you're a pathetic hypocrite after you just cried about making it personal, but you think "I'm a keyboard warrior, living in my mom's basement".

You really are an idiot, that responds like a child.

He called me a troll. LOL... goes to show he doesn't know the meaning of the word. You call Trump a baby, seams like you can relate.

hypocrite, childish, and just flat out dumb.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Didn't take long.

 

[Firewalker]

Nope not at all! He will be banned after two posts with personal attacks on someone.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Judge tells Trump not to make a statement... Trump is Trump, statement made!!! WoooHooo!!!! Now that is the kind of ego we need in a leader!!! I am gonna get me a blue suit and some self tanning lotion!!!

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I wonder if they will go after every property owner in NY and try to charge them with the same thing. Charged with inflating his real estate net worth or some shit... Really? To do what, get more money from the banks? That's on the banks, they don't have to give the loans or pay what value Trump says. If I am selling my car I can say I want whatever number pops in my head. If someone agrees to that number, that's on them. I give Trump a pass on this for being smarter than the banks.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

Not more money, cheaper money - he overinflated (fraudulently) his net worth/value to get better interest rates and then deflated (fraudulently) the value to pay less taxes, again, illegal. He also stated evaluations to secure the loans (with the help of signatories in his company), literally lied about them just to secure them, fraud, fraud ,fraud! You can't do that! If he hadn't done that, the loans would have been denied!

It doesn't matter if nobody is affected (even though everyone is affected when revenues are counted) or they actually benefit, profited, it's fraudulent. Would you be saying the same if he filed for bankruptcy on those loans (as he has 7 times prior) and then found out it was due to the same fraud? I think not. Just because people made money off if it doesn't make it legal, on the contrary.

Anything that is fruit of the poisoned tree is subject to forfeiture, it's the law, not an opinion - and not unique to this prosecution. Do you like that if you were in that position and did it by the books and paid several million dollars more in taxes (breaks he realized due to this fraudulent reporting) when someone else is getting away with it?

Nobody gets a pass or there is no order to the system, pure anarchy, everyone for themselves, cannot work in such a way. Not sure why anyone would give anyone a pass on breaking the law, it's really that simple, you cannot say well, nobody got hurt by it, so...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The Orange Guy's teflon coating must be wearing off...

Donald Trump ordered to pay The New York Times and its reporters nearly $400,000 in legal fees

Donald Trump was ordered to pay nearly $400,000 in legal fees to The New York Times and three reporters he sued over a story about his family’s wealth and tax practices.

apnews.com

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Not more money, cheaper money - he overinflated (fraudulently) his net worth/value to get better interest rates and then deflated (fraudulently) the value to pay less taxes, again, illegal. He also stated evaluations to secure the loans (with the help of signatories in his company), literally lied about them just to secure them, fraud, fraud ,fraud! You can't do that! If he hadn't done that, the loans would have been denied!

It doesn't matter if nobody is affected (even though everyone is affected when revenues are counted) or they actually benefit, profited, it's fraudulent. Would you be saying the same if he filed for bankruptcy on those loans (as he has 7 times prior) and then found out it was due to the same fraud? I think not. Just because people made money off if it doesn't make it legal, on the contrary.

Anything that is fruit of the poisoned tree is subject to forfeiture, it's the law, not an opinion - and not unique to this prosecution. Do you like that if you were in that position and did it by the books and paid several million dollars more in taxes (breaks he realized due to this fraudulent reporting) when someone else is getting away with it?

Nobody gets a pass or there is no order to the system, pure anarchy, everyone for themselves, cannot work in such a way. Not sure why anyone would give anyone a pass on breaking the law, it's really that simple, you cannot say well, nobody got hurt by it, so...

When did this allegedly happen? What dates?

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

When did this allegedly happen? What dates?

This is what that NY trial is, was all about!

The court found him guilty of fraud on all counts I believe, regardless, the verdict on the merits of the prosecution's' case has already been decided, trump, his sons and the businesses, the whole enterprise was found guilty of fraud.

Trump's lawyers were given the option (as all attorney's are provided prior to any trial) of a bench trial or a trial by a jury of his pears, Trump's lawyers opted for a bench trial (no jury) and the judge found that he, his sons and the businesses he owns committed fraud for all the reasons and more that I listed prior.

Funny that his lawyers requested this type of trial but Trump repeatedly complained that he wasn't allowed, was denied a jury trial, the guy is the biggest con artist, lying grifter I've ever witnessed.

The settlement phase just finished up. It will determined what he owes. It will be announced in February.

AND yes, i'm sure he will appeal. That has not been going so well for him lately either.

Additional information on the 62 cases/suits filed that he lied about regarding the stolen election, and also lost- big-ly! (play on words ther, ha)

Post-election lawsuits related to the 2020 U.S. presidential election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For me it's not about policy, he's a danger to our representative form of government. I mean,nevemindthe over 32000 documented occurrences of lying on the books already, even if you drop half for partisan political reasons, that still a big number, too big for me.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

This is what that NY trial is, was all about!

The court found him guilty of fraud on all counts I believe, regardless, the verdict on the merits of the prosecution's' case has already been decided, trump, his sons and the businesses, the whole enterprise was found guilty of fraud.

Trump's lawyers were given the option (as all attorney's are provided prior to any trial) of a bench trial or a trial by a jury of his pears, Trump's lawyers opted for a bench trial (no jury) and the judge found that he, his sons and the businesses he owns committed fraud for all the reasons and more that I listed prior.

Funny that his lawyers requested this type of trial but Trump repeatedly complained that he wasn't allowed, was denied a jury trial, the guy is the biggest con artist, lying grifter I've ever witnessed.

The settlement phase just finished up. It will determined what he owes. It will be announced in February.

AND yes, i'm sure he will appeal. That has not been going so well for him lately either.

Additional information on the 62 cases/suits filed that he lied about regarding the stolen election, and also lost- big-ly! (play on words ther, ha)

Post-election lawsuits related to the 2020 U.S. presidential election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For me it's not about policy, he's a danger to our representative form of government. I mean,nevemindthe over 32000 documented occurrences of lying on the books already, even if you drop half for partisan political reasons, that still a big number, too big for me.

I literally just asked what dates the alleged fraud happened. I.e. 1901 or 2003 or 1977...

 

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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I don't believe you are this stupid. I think you are a troll. You just lie and deflect in every comment you make in here.


How stupid do you think we are to believe this horse shit?

That's all you've done. Every comment you made in here is made up bullshit, and deflected. You are just lying sack of shit.

That's the type of response that leads to nothing but bickering and name calling and will get these threads shut down.