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<blockquote data-quote="Doxquzme" data-source="post: 8868523" data-attributes="member: 689267">This is what that NY trial is, was all about!The court found him guilty of fraud on all counts I believe, regardless, the verdict on the merits of the prosecution&#039;s&#039; case has already been decided, trump, his sons and the businesses, the whole enterprise was found guilty of fraud.Trump&#039;s lawyers were given the option (as all attorney&#039;s are provided prior to any trial) of a bench trial or a trial by a jury of his pears, Trump&#039;s lawyers opted for a bench trial (no jury) and the judge found that he, his sons and the businesses he owns committed fraud for all the reasons and more that I listed prior.Funny that his lawyers requested this type of trial but Trump repeatedly complained that he wasn&#039;t allowed, was denied a jury trial, the guy is the biggest con artist, lying grifter I&#039;ve ever witnessed.The settlement phase just finished up. It will determined what he owes. It will be announced in February.AND yes, i&#039;m sure he will appeal. That has not been going so well for him lately either.Additional information on the 62 cases/suits filed that he lied about regarding the stolen election, and also lost- big-ly! (play on words ther, ha)[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election[/URL]For me it&#039;s not about policy, he&#039;s a danger to our representative form of government. I mean,nevemindthe over 32000 documented occurrences of lying on the books already, even if you drop half for partisan political reasons, that still a big number, too big for me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Doxquzme, post: 8868523, member: 689267"] This is what that NY trial is, was all about! The court found him guilty of fraud on all counts I believe, regardless, the verdict on the merits of the prosecution's' case has already been decided, trump, his sons and the businesses, the whole enterprise was found guilty of fraud. Trump's lawyers were given the option (as all attorney's are provided prior to any trial) of a bench trial or a trial by a jury of his pears, Trump's lawyers opted for a bench trial (no jury) and the judge found that he, his sons and the businesses he owns committed fraud for all the reasons and more that I listed prior. Funny that his lawyers requested this type of trial but Trump repeatedly complained that he wasn't allowed, was denied a jury trial, the guy is the biggest con artist, lying grifter I've ever witnessed. The settlement phase just finished up. It will determined what he owes. It will be announced in February. AND yes, i'm sure he will appeal. That has not been going so well for him lately either. Additional information on the 62 cases/suits filed that he lied about regarding the stolen election, and also lost- big-ly! (play on words ther, ha) [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election[/URL] For me it's not about policy, he's a danger to our representative form of government. I mean,nevemindthe over 32000 documented occurrences of lying on the books already, even if you drop half for partisan political reasons, that still a big number, too big for me. [/QUOTE]

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