Current events discussion

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Better economy than the Republicans since 1947.

That's good. At least for the folks who don't have a government-provided nest egg to live off of.

Try again.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

No. DOGE read the report on it, then claimed DOGE found it.
“They’re finding fraud that was marked as fraud and saying they found out it was fraud.”
I guess I could say I shot Dillinger, since I read a story about it happening. Right?

Quite the hasty generalization to say nothing was done about it previously.
How did you reach that conclusion?

That's what it reads like, other than 1 person claiming it's the exact same fraud. Luckily DOGE is being transparent with us and will remove the fraud from it's list if necessary.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Apparently the fraud that DOGE found had been found before... so whomever found it, did nothing about it. Great governmenting.

"Apparently"? because you just read Jimi's post?
Too funny.

It's illegal to think you found some spending that could be cut, but then changed course? Okay.

Another hasty generalization. When did I say it was illegal to "change course"?

But it does beg the question of how they could determine something is a BILLION dollar "fraud", make a public announcement, then suddenly backpedal and make it disappear. I guess BILLION dollar mistakes just happen, huh?
Well, if they are that sloppy with their work, it makes every other claim of a win suspect.

Is it illegal when you pursue alleged fraud, find out it there isn't fraud and drop the case?

It would be illegal if I declared there WAS fraud, and prosecuted the person for it when there was none.
DOGE declared a BILLION dollar success that wasn't real. They didn't "drop the case".

If they are making declarations, they shouldn't be doing it before they are true. This isn't "make a wish".

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

"Apparently"? because you just read Jimi's post?
Too funny.

Another hasty generalization. When did I say it was illegal to "change course"?

But it does beg the question of how they could determine something is a BILLION dollar "fraud", make a public announcement, then suddenly backpedal and make it disappear. I guess BILLION dollar mistakes just happen, huh?
Well, if they are that sloppy with their work, it makes every other claim of a win suspect.

It would be illegal if I declared there WAS fraud, and prosecuted the person for it when there was none.
DOGE declared a BILLION dollar success that wasn't real. They didn't "drop the case".

If they are making declarations, they shouldn't be doing it before they are true. This isn't "make a wish".

Hey Rob.... You are wrong about everything and we are right about everything. Prove us wrong!!

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Try again.

That's more than enough. A good economy makes everything better.
And the Democrats can be thanked for a better economy than we see under Republicans.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That's more than enough. A good economy makes everything better.
And the Democrats can be thanked for a better economy than we see under Republicans.

Right because you think the S&P 500 doing well means a good economy. Even though it doesn't.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

"Apparently"? because you just read Jimi's post?
Too funny.

Another hasty generalization. When did I say it was illegal to "change course"?

But it does beg the question of how they could determine something is a BILLION dollar "fraud", make a public announcement, then suddenly backpedal and make it disappear. I guess BILLION dollar mistakes just happen, huh?
Well, if they are that sloppy with their work, it makes every other claim of a win suspect.

It would be illegal if I declared there WAS fraud, and prosecuted the person for it when there was none.
DOGE declared a BILLION dollar success that wasn't real. They didn't "drop the case".

If they are making declarations, they shouldn't be doing it before they are true. This isn't "make a wish".

It isn't make wish; it isn't illegal or fraudulent either.

I get that you will hold TrumpCo responsible for every little mistake made. They are trying to unwind decades of accumulated waste, inefficiency, etc. They are dealing with decades of not only ignoring, but encouraging illegal immigration. Some of us are willing to give them wiggle room and aren't going to pretend that everything this administration does is illegal, fraud, Constitutional Crisis, etc.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Right because you think the S&P 500 doing well means a good economy. Even though it doesn't.

Nice try, but I've posted MANY times about all the different metrics that indicate a good economy.

Just because you don't understand them, doesn't mean I ignore them.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Right because you think the S&P 500 doing well means a good economy. Even though it doesn't.

The S&P 500 doing well the last ~5 years has been expansive money policy from the Fed and other central banks along with tons of stimulus/deficit spending. All that money had to go somewhere and the stock market is one of those places money poured into. PE ratios were out of whack, we had accelerated stock market growth with no underlying economic expansion, no new industries, no new jobs, etc. Then when the stock market corrects, it's all the Orange Fella's fault.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

It isn't make wish; it isn't illegal or fraudulent either.

I get that you will hold TrumpCo responsible for every little mistake made. They are trying to unwind decades of accumulated waste, inefficiency, etc. They are dealing with decades of not only ignoring, but encouraging illegal immigration. Some of us are willing to give them wiggle room and aren't going to pretend that everything this administration does is illegal, fraud, Constitutional Crisis, etc.

Ahhh, "wiggle room".
So, you think it's OK for this Administration to do illegal things in the name of "good"?

Violate the COTUS left and right, ignore the SCOTUS, break statutes. All forgivable.
When does it become NOT forgivable? When it affects YOU? Like all those Trumpers who are now being hurt and whining that they didn't know he'd hurt THEM?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Hey Rob.... You are wrong about everything and we are right about everything. Prove us wrong!!

Go back to the swingset, child. This isn't kindergarten.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Damm judge keeping his street cred, shooter on deck and ready for whatever.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The S&P 500 doing well the last ~5 years has been expansive money policy from the Fed and other central banks along with tons of stimulus/deficit spending. All that money had to go somewhere and the stock market is one of those places money poured into. PE ratios were out of whack, we had accelerated stock market growth with no underlying economic expansion, no new industries, no new jobs, etc. Then when the stock market corrects, it's all the Orange Fella's fault.

Are you trying to convince us it was all an AMAZING coincidence, or yourself?

You seem to be parroting the same thoughts. Ones that contradict every analysis of the events that happened.
What is the basis of your thoughts that it is all just a coincidence?

Do you think the precipitous drop in 2020 was just a market correction, and had nothing to do with the pandemic panic? Simply coincidence?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Nice try, but I've posted MANY times about all the different metrics that indicate a good economy.

Just because you don't understand them, doesn't mean I ignore them.

I know that is part of your playbook to assume that someone who doesn't remotely agree with you by default doesn't "understand" something. However, you have specifically referenced the stock market as meaning the economy is good more than once.

Honestly, who gives a shit what you keep crying about. Posting the memes you claim you don't use to prove your points as you slip deeper into your TDS depression. No amount of your post on here are going to change a lick of spit in the government so you are wasting your liberal tears.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I know that is part of your playbook to assume that someone who doesn't remotely agree with you by default doesn't "understand" something. However, you have specifically referenced the stock market as meaning the economy is good more than once.

You have this weird impression that you get to agree or disagree with mathematical fact, history, medical fact, federal regulation, state statute, Constitutional law, and a host of other irrefutable things.
Sorry, but that's not how reality works. None of those things are affected by your agreeance, or lack thereof.

Can you share where I said that the stock market health is the only measure of the economy?

Honestly, who gives a shit what you keep crying about. Posting the memes you claim you don't use to prove your points as you slip deeper into your TDS depression. No amount of your post on here are going to change a lick of spit in the government so you are wasting your liberal tears.

More whining about the thread existing, yet you and your TSS can't manage to leave it.
You sit here and pretend every failure of the Administration is a success.
Pretty damn weird.