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[ThxOne Premium Member]

CTRL+V is paste dummy. CTRL+F will help you search the page idiot. CTRL+ C will copy moron.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Are you pacing? IS your heart rate elevated?? Are you sweating??? Is granny yelling at you to stop throwing your keyboard???? Are you making high pitched noises as you lose control of your emotions????? Are you pulling out what hair you have left??????

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

How Rob looks right now...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So, I guess your not a troll, so that just makes you a major obstinate idiot. Thank you for clearing that up with us.

Yes, I am a right winger. That means I know what definitions are and I accept them.

Cool! Show me the definition that says a ***** is a legal person before birth.
Show me a birth certificate and SSN issued for a *****.

Obviously you are also living your life on your own beliefs, sooooo... News flash!!! Everyone lives their lives on their own beliefs. LOL....

News flash: My beliefs are not used to shape US law. I do not force my beliefs on others. I do not expect people to live their lives based on my personal beliefs.
Can YOU say the same?

Is that why you disregard the Bible? Because it's not convenient for you?

Because it's a book of fairy tales used to control people.

NOPE! Please show me where it says to hate homosexuals because God hates them and please state what bible you are getting this info from. I have read different versions and none of them is state any of that. You must be reading out of the Quran.

Seems that Spokey beat me to it. There's actually a website regarding the question, with MANY examples. Here: https://www.gotquestions.org/New-Testament-homosexuality.html
A snippet: "The New Testament says that homosexuality is a “shameful lust” (Romans 1:26), a “shameful act,” an abandonment of “natural relations” (Romans 1:27), a “wrongdoing” (1 Corinthians 6:9), and “****** immorality and perversion” (Jude 1:7). Homosexuality carries a “due penalty” (Romans 1:27), “is contrary to the sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:10), and is listed among the sins that bar people from the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9). Despite the attempts of some to downplay these verses, the Bible could not be clearer that homosexuality is a sin against God."

Ummm... I answered that. It was probably too clear, so are not able to understand it.

No, you said aborting a zygote is NOT "killing a baby" because the cells had not combined (which is wrong. A zygote is the union of sperm and egg).
"Nope. The cells have not combined yet." Is a quote of your words.
Then you said aborting a dog ***** IS "killing a baby" because the cells "have all come together", which is NOT how mitosis works.
"Yes, that is called an embryo. The cells have all come together."

You gave me a list of stages. I answered them. It's not my fault you don't understand simple sentences. Inconsistent is telling people to believe in the science, but when it doesn't float your way, you deny it.

See above. Both of your answers were incorrect.
Try again?

What's your favorite way to fish? I bet it's trolling.

Weird tangent. If an attempt at humor, it failed.

I have no idea why you deny the things you say and why you deny science.

So SCIENCE says that abortions should not happen? Not religion?
Can you share a reference to that? Maybe a textbook?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No you don't. You use a search function so you don't have to remember anything. You ain't foolin anyone kid.

And I get lucky EVERY SINGLE TIME?
It's not that I know something exists and have to find it?
Just pure coincidence that I am able to find posts where you had said something, and the posts always happen to be there?
I bet you believe rabbits feet give good luck.

Just like the way you live your life by YOUR beliefs. Didn't work to well for you. You're stuck in a job with no abilities to speak of and not a chance in hell of a better position. You're belief that it would work out for you failed.

And yet I am working, live in my own house, am funding my own retirement, and moved out of the "starter jobs" (like delivering pizza) when I was a teenager.

That was my point you blunt brained idiot.

"You do know that people on the left also believe in a God right? It's not just people on the right, Trump supporters and conservatives"
OK?
You DO know that an overinflated tire can have uneven wear and a shorter life, right?

Go ******* research it troll. We aren't here to give you a free education.

You want ME to prove your claim that at some time between 8 and 9 weeks, aborting a ***** BECOMES "killing a baby", and that this is medical fact?
You're joking, right?
Can you even provide a credible source of this medical fact?

It means nobody cares what you demand troll.

It means an answer will prove their claims false.

Here we go with the full on troll shit. Round and Round we go!!! You are going in circles dipshit!!

You think it's "trolling" to give you a question that will prove your claims wrong if answered honestly?
You might want to look up the definition of "troll", not what you BELIEVE the definition to be.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

And I get lucky EVERY SINGLE TIME?
It's not that I know something exists and have to find it?
Just pure coincidence that I am able to find posts where you had said something, and the posts always happen to be there?
I bet you believe rabbits feet give good luck.

I can use the forum search button too. However when you are only on the forum to troll it narrows down your topics to search. Doesn't it troll?

And yet I am working, live in my own house, am funding my own retirement, and moved out of the "starter jobs" (like delivering pizza) when I was a teenager.

Stop lying. You are a troll. A person who has their shit together doesn't need to troll a car audio forum in a political thread.

"You do know that people on the left also believe in a God right? It's not just people on the right, Trump supporters and conservatives"
OK?
You DO know that an overinflated tire can have uneven wear and a shorter life, right?

Nope, no clue. Tell me more about uneven wear? Is it dangerous?

You want ME to prove your claim that at some time between 8 and 9 weeks, aborting a ***** BECOMES "killing a baby", and that this is medical fact?
You're joking, right?
Can you even provide a credible source of this medical fact?

Nope, sure can't. Can't provide quotes from dictionary web sites, medical web sites. Can't provide screen caps either. Nope, I am just blowing smoke up your ***. Troll.

It means an answer will prove their claims false.

It means people are tired of you demanding the same shit over and over since you joined this forum to troll people.

You think it's "trolling" to give you a question that will prove your claims wrong if answered honestly?
You might want to look up the definition of "troll", not what you BELIEVE the definition to be.

Oh I absolutely do think you are trolling. You demand responses of proof and facts. We have provided them to you to which you then argue the responses are wrong, definitions are wrong, screen caps are wrong. You ignore the sources then demand the sources. You are ******* stupid. A class A jackass. A ******* moron.

 

[Old_Slapper]

Cool! Show me the definition that says a ***** is a legal person before birth.
Show me a birth certificate and SSN issued for a *****.

LOL... once gain, I already did.

So, are you saying it's legal to kill many of the illegals that are coming across the border? According your definition, many of them are not human. They don't have birth certificates or SSN. LOL...

Gotcha on that one. LOL...

Still trolling huh?

News flash: My beliefs are not used to shape US law. I do not force my beliefs on others. I do not expect people to live their lives based on my personal beliefs.
Can YOU say the same?

You really need to brush up on your comprehensive reading. Know where did I say others live on your beliefs. I said everyone lives on their own beliefs. I am a conservative. Of course I believe, and accept, others to live on their own beliefs.

Because it's a book of fairy tales used to control people.

Prove it's a fairy tale book?

Seems that Spokey beat me to it. There's actually a website regarding the question, with MANY examples. Here: https://www.gotquestions.org/New-Testament-homosexuality.html
A snippet: "The New Testament says that homosexuality is a “shameful lust” (Romans 1:26), a “shameful act,” an abandonment of “natural relations” (Romans 1:27), a “wrongdoing” (1 Corinthians 6:9), and “****** immorality and perversion” (Jude 1:7). Homosexuality carries a “due penalty” (Romans 1:27), “is contrary to the sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:10), and is listed among the sins that bar people from the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9). Despite the attempts of some to downplay these verses, the Bible could not be clearer that homosexuality is a sin against God."

Yes, but where does it say God hates homosexuals and we are to kill and/or enslave them?

No, you said aborting a zygote is NOT "killing a baby" because the cells had not combined (which is wrong. A zygote is the union of sperm and egg).
"Nope. The cells have not combined yet." Is a quote of your words.

LOL... So now you're admitting that an embryo is a human baby?

A zygote is when the egg gets fertilized. Have the sells combined yet? Nope! They are still some cells that have not come together yet. Take a English comprehensive course and you might be able to understand what was written.

Then you said aborting a dog ***** IS "killing a baby" because the cells "have all come together", which is NOT how mitosis works.
"Yes, that is called an embryo. The cells have all come together."


See above. Both of your answers were incorrect.
Try again?

Thank you for sharing my quote. Now everyone can see how illiterate you are. I clearly state that an embryo is when all the cells come together. That means they are combined and will start to grow as one life form.

Where the hell are getting a dog being aborted. And yes, if you kill abort a dog, you are killing a baby dog, aka, a puppy.

Weird tangent. If an attempt at humor, it failed.

One joke that can always count on is you. LOL...

So SCIENCE says that abortions should not happen? Not religion?
Can you share a reference to that? Maybe a textbook?

Well, since you haven't taken your comprehensive course yet, I will explain this to you.

Science does not make governing laws. However, Science has proven that a ***** is a human. That has been proven. Even your pro-abortion biologists admitted that. I showed that to you already.

Christians, and many other religious groups, believe that killing people is bad. So, if science says a ***** is a human and killing humans are bad, then... I'll let you do the math on that.

OH,
Did I mention that most pro-abortion biologists agree that a human embryo is a living human? I just thought I would bring that up in case you missed it.

 

[Speed Chaser]

How is the research theoretical when they're actually doing it? I understand it may not be publicly deployed yet, but I've seen a bunch of what they're doing in the labs and it's terrifying. We're gonna have to agree to disagree, but to say I can't worry about AI or that is dumb is dumb itself. You aren't really disproving what I'm saying either. My thoughts on this subject come from a very, very deep place. Don't play word semantics or nuances. They are absolutely trying to hook humanity up to the Internet and already can. Duh. There's a whole science behind it dude like it isn't a guessing game

Below is a very good read on transhumanism:

"According to Kurzweil, we would soon reach the Singularity, when we would be transformed into ‘Spiritual Machines’..."

God in the machine: my strange journey into transhumanism

The long read: After losing her faith, a former evangelical Christian felt adrift in the world. She then found solace in a radical technological philosophy – but its promises of immortality and spiritual transcendence soon seemed unsettlingly familiar

amp.theguardian.com

Show me actual evidence of them building it. You aren’t proving anything you’re saying either. You can claim you’ve seen things all you want, just like people who think they’ve spotted a UFO because they saw a quadcopter with LEDs flying at night. Crying about something without providing even the slightest evidence to support your view is pointless. Oh yes, another article about someone fear-mongering about AI call me shocked. It has about as much value as the articles written about the ex-Google employee who was fooled into thinking an AI chatbot was sentient.

As for 'playing games,' that’s still you. I’ve repeatedly asked you for evidence, and each time you’ve failed to provide any. Are you going to fall back on your go-to response of saying, 'Go do the research yourself'? You’d think someone with such a deadset view would have tons of evidence to back it up. If AI rationalizes that keeping humans alive is beneficial to itself, then we have nothing to worry about because that would be one dumb AI and humanity could easily revolt against such a dumb AI. Almost as dumb as worrying about AI while simultaneously claiming you aren’t concerned about nuclear war, which already has the machinery to make mass destruction a reality.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

For the Troll.

West Virginia Code:
"*****" means the developing human in the postembryonic period from nine weeks after fertilization until birth.

From the NIH website:
"the inconvenient truth is … The biological nature of the ***** is in the realm of verifiable scientific fact and admits but one answer: the ***** is a unique human life. To argue otherwise is irrational and deeply anti-scientific. The question—is the ***** a person?—is, in contrast, a much-debated philosophical matter. (McCurdy 2016, 22, 23)"

"*****: Generic noun—a stage of any mammalian in-development: Canine, Porcine, Bovine, or Human. ***** is Latin for “little one”—a much more descriptive, singular, and endearing concept than “*****.”"


Cleveland Clinic:

"Fetal stage​

The fetal stage of development begins around the ninth week and lasts until birth. This is when the embryo officially turns into a *****. The ***** gets its assigned *** around nine weeks of pregnancy, although your healthcare provider can’t detect it on ultrasound yet. The *****’s major organs and body systems continue to grow and mature. Things like fingernails, eyelashes and hair also grow. The ***** is able to move its limbs, although you may not feel it until 20 weeks of pregnancy. The majority of growth — in both weight and length — happens in the fetal stage."

MERCK MANUAL:

I have covered more than enough sources for the Troll. Let's see him do what he does and deny facts and proof because he is a troll and that is what they do.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I can use the forum search button too. However when you are only on the forum to troll it narrows down your topics to search. Doesn't it troll?

You certainly can, but using the search tool doesn't created results that didn't exist before. Again: Do you think I just get lucky and every time I look for something it happens to be there?
How could I possibly search for something unless I already knew it existed?
Like your claim that a house can't have "2.3 kids"? How could I possibly find that unelss I already knew you posted it?
Do you think I go back and read every post you've made, HOPING to find that info? HOPING that you may have mentioned it?
Do you think I go and read entire anatomy books after I say there are nerves in bones, AFTER I have said it, HOPING the info is out there?
I just get TOTALLY lucky to find that a federal law exists allowing Biden to sell oil from the SPR, after I argue against your claim that he broke the law?
Apply the slightest bit of logic to your argument, and it falls apart.

Stop lying. You are a troll. A person who has their shit together doesn't need to troll a car audio forum in a political thread.

So you don't have your shit together? Must be the case if you think I don't, since we are BOTH here.

Nope, no clue. Tell me more about uneven wear? Is it dangerous?

It sure can be.
And it's as irrelevant to the discussion as your statement that Democrats have religious beliefs.

Nope, sure can't. Can't provide quotes from dictionary web sites, medical web sites. Can't provide screen caps either. Nope, I am just blowing smoke up your ***. Troll.

Quite literally. Just make shit up and demand that people accept it as fact.
Trolling epitomized.

It means people are tired of you demanding the same shit over and over since you joined this forum to troll people.

So I am supposed to just accept lies as truth so that entitled snowflakes won't get sad that their BS is questioned, and not just accepted as fact because THEY said so?
No thanks.
I think the right-wingers use the phrase "**** your feelings", right?

Oh I absolutely do think you are trolling. You demand responses of proof and facts. We have provided them to you to which you then argue the responses are wrong, definitions are wrong, screen caps are wrong. You ignore the sources then demand the sources. You are ******* stupid. A class A jackass. A ******* moron.

Cool. Show me the post where you answered the question of who pays the import tariff for an item coming from China.
Show me the post where you answered the question of who pays the import tariff for the $888 bike being shipped to me from China.
A post number is fine. Screen cap works too, if you can do that.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

LOL... once gain, I already did.

Repeating "I already did" does not change the fact that you didn't.

So, are you saying it's legal to kill many of the illegals that are coming across the border? According your definition, many of them are not human. They don't have birth certificates or SSN. LOL...

That's a really odd strawman. Why do you think Mexicans don't get birth certificates and SSNs when they are born? Do you think USA is the only country to issue such things? That's downright weird.

And it doesn't provide an example of a ***** that has been issued a birth certificate and an SSN.
You have to legally be a person to get those.
But go ahead and show me an example where it has happened.

Gotcha on that one. LOL...

Still trolling huh?

You really need to brush up on your comprehensive reading. Know where did I say others live on your beliefs. I said everyone lives on their own beliefs. I am a conservative. Of course I believe, and accept, others to live on their own beliefs.

And you demand others live by your beliefs. More specifically, your religious beliefs.

Prove it's a fairy tale book?

The story of creation. It's simply not possible that our entire existence is only 6,000 years old when they have physical specimens of humans that are carbon-dated at ~233,000 years old.
The story is a fairy tale, as are many other stories in it.
Try the great flood of Noah. Impossible, and striking similar to Gilgamesh.

Yes, but where does it say God hates homosexuals and we are to kill and/or enslave them?

Already showed it to you.
I never said enslave homosexuals. I said enslave the enemy. Deuteronomy 20.

LOL... So now you're admitting that an embryo is a human baby?

I did no such thing.

A zygote is when the egg gets fertilized. Have the sells combined yet? Nope! They are still some cells that have not come together yet. Take a English comprehensive course and you might be able to understand what was written

A zygote is the UNION of the sperm and the egg.
There is no UNION if they are not TOGETHER. Let's try again:
zygote - a diploid cell resulting from the fusion of two haploid gametes; a fertilized ovum.
fusion - the process or result of joining two or more things together to form a single entity
diploid - a cell or organism that has two complete sets of chromosomes
Perhaps YOU need a refresher on English comprehension?

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Thank you for sharing my quote. Now everyone can see how illiterate you are. I clearly state that an embryo is when all the cells come together. That means they are combined and will start to grow as one life form.

Embryos are formed by mitosis, not by cells "coming together".
They literally split to form new cells.
mitosis - a process of cell division that produces two identical daughter cells from a single parent cell
A ***** is formed by the process of mitosis; after fertilization, the zygote (a single cell formed by the fusion of sperm and egg) repeatedly divides through mitosis to create a multitude of cells, which eventually develop into an embryo and then a *****
Did you skip anatomy and physiology in high school?

Where the hell are getting a dog being aborted. And yes, if you kill abort a dog, you are killing a baby dog, aka, a puppy.

Hahahaha. You identified a zygote incorrectly, and identified a dog ***** as human.

One joke that can always count on is you. LOL...
Well, since you haven't taken your comprehensive course yet, I will explain this to you.

Science does not make governing laws. However, Science has proven that a ***** is a human. That has been proven. Even your pro-abortion biologists admitted that. I showed that to you already.

The law says a ***** is not legally a person. It is made of human cells, for sure, but not legally a person.
You said aborting a zygote is not "killing a baby". So, at what point of gestation does it become "a baby"?
Thx guesses it's between 8 and 9 weeks, but will not commit beyond that. How about you?

Christians, and many other religious groups, believe that killing people is bad. So, if science says a ***** is a human and killing humans are bad, then... I'll let you do the math on that.

Oh? Over 1,000 wars were started due to Christianity. Ever hear of the Crusades?
Jesus said "“But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.”
Lets do the math on THAT.

OH,
Did I mention that most pro-abortion biologists agree that a human embryo is a living human? I just thought I would bring that up in case you missed it.

You're parroting the AI result an awful lot. But the AI results are very often a "survey says" type of compendium.
if the "survey said" that the moon is bigger than the sun, would you accept it because the AI result told you so?

So can you show me a B.C. and an SSN issue to a *****, or not?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Show me actual evidence of them building it. You aren’t proving anything you’re saying either. You can claim you’ve seen things all you want, just like people who think they’ve spotted a UFO because they saw a quadcopter with LEDs flying at night. Crying about something without providing even the slightest evidence to support your view is pointless. Oh yes, another article about someone fear-mongering about AI call me shocked. It has about as much value as the articles written about the ex-Google employee who was fooled into thinking an AI chatbot was sentient.

As for 'playing games,' that’s still you. I’ve repeatedly asked you for evidence, and each time you’ve failed to provide any. Are you going to fall back on your go-to response of saying, 'Go do the research yourself'? You’d think someone with such a deadset view would have tons of evidence to back it up. If AI rationalizes that keeping humans alive is beneficial to itself, then we have nothing to worry about because that would be one dumb AI and humanity could easily revolt against such a dumb AI. Almost as dumb as worrying about AI while simultaneously claiming you aren’t concerned about nuclear war, which already has the machinery to make mass destruction a reality.

You seem like a troll in a way. You seem smart but you're mixing and matching stuff altogether, you're attributing some things to what other people said in general and not directly me, and that leans towards the idea again you don't know what you're talking about or what I mean by certain issues. I get the deep feeling no matter what I post or don't you're gonna be the same way, because we fundamentally disagree on life. Fallback on "go do the research yourself"? Dude, I've probably posted more news and science and whatever articles on this site than probably any other person on the history of this entire site forever. I know you can't look it all up but ninja please.

So, there's just shit not adding up with your logic here and what you are and aren't attributing to me saying. You can't organize information like you have in that post and really have a meaningful conversation. What you're doing is throwing your opinion at me in a way it's impossible to respond.

I need evidence of what happens when you die, whether or not you live or not into something afterwards. If you don't live on after your body dies, I need proof. If you do live on after your body dies, I need proof. I'm asking you specifically since you want to say the things I'm talking about are dumb.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Gen 1.3 Let there be light.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Show me a birth certificate and SSN

Neither of those a requisite for being human...or do you think non US citizens are not human?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

OpenAI's new ChatGPT o1 model will try to escape if it thinks it'll be shut down — then lies about it

Researchers uncover all kinds of tricks ChatGPT o1 will pull to save itself

www.tomsguide.com

"Skynet Became Self-Aware And Decided Humanity Was A Threat

In some of the Terminator timelines, it is implied that Skynet was trying to protect its own existence, which is why it tried to wipe out the human race.""