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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The people that vote for those kind of policies will never make the connection to the problem

I know, it's insane. Not only are they unable to connect the policy to the problem, they often deny the problem even exists.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope, you aren't going to get out of this one by fast talk, misdirection or any of your other tactics. You said that we both claim there are 10's of millions of jobs for people to move too when we never made such a claim. You then provided some math in hopes that showing some math on the forum will cover up your lie that we both said 10's of millions of jobs. I pointed out to you that in order for your numbers to work YOU are assuming that all of these people WANT to move to higher paying jobs. That assumption is literally the only way your little "gotcha" moment works. So, show me the proof that all of the people used in your math want to move to higher paying jobs or **** off troll.

"Jobs pay what they pay... don't like it, IMPROVE YOUR SITUATION IN LIFE!!!"

"If you feel you have reached a dead end in your job then you approach your boss and negotiate for more wages. They don't have to say yes. Nothing is keeping you there. Find more gainful employment. "

Knock it off with your retarded requests for proof that people want to make more money.
You might as well ask for proof that people would rather eat pizza than warm dog shit.
If you REALLY need prof that people who work would want to make more money for the same output, then you're simply an idiot.

Show me the "more gainful employment" that the 74+ million people who are currently making less than a living wage can just "find".
Show me all the jobs that these 74+ million people could get if they all suddenly "improved their situation" so that they could move into them.

Show me at least ten million available jobs in the US that they can just "get" at this time.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

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"Jobs pay what they pay... don't like it, IMPROVE YOUR SITUATION IN LIFE!!!"

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"If you feel you have reached a dead end in your job then you approach your boss and negotiate for more wages. They don't have to say yes. Nothing is keeping you there. Find more gainful employment. "

Knock it off with your retarded requests for proof that people want to make more money.
You might as well ask for proof that people would rather eat pizza than warm dog shit.
If you REALLY need prof that people who work would want to make more money for the same output, then you're simply an idiot.

Show me the "more gainful employment" that the 74+ million people who are currently making less than a living wage can just "find".
Show me all the jobs that these 74+ million people could get if they all suddenly "improved their situation" so that they could move into them.

Show me at least ten million available jobs in the US that they can just "get" at this time.

AGAIN TROLL, SHOW ME WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR MATH WANT HIGHER PAYING JOBS!!!

Read what I said then read it again because apparently you have no idea what the word IF means you idiot. I said IF they have reached a dead end. I don't presume to speak for anyone. That is your ignorance.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Show me

Still haven't backed up your 30k propaganda...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Still haven't backed up your 30k propaganda...

Until you prove it wrong, the lies exist and some are even part of congressional record.
So, go ahead and prove that at least ONE of them isn't a lie, or even isn't a real quote of his words.

Do it quickly so in 5 pages you can;t say "I already did".

And while you're at it, maybe find proof of those tens of millions of available jobs the low-wage workers should just move into, so all employers aren't crushed by paying a higher minimum wage or a living wage.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Until you prove it wrong, the lies exist and some are even part of congressional record.
So, go ahead and prove that at least ONE of them isn't a lie, or even isn't a real quote of his words.

Do it quickly so in 5 pages you can;t say "I already did".

And while you're at it, maybe find proof of those tens of millions of available jobs the low-wage workers should just move into, so all employers aren't crushed by paying a higher minimum wage or a living wage.

TROLL!!!!

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Until you prove it wrong

Nope...your standard...you said it, you prove it...

 

[Speed Chaser]

You don't study enough about what the people are doing that actually run the world, and why World War III is about to happen at the same time as the rise of AI. I understand why you may not understand this like I do, not saying you are wrong for that, but I still fundamentally disagree with you to call people dumb for seeing AI is a threat, as World War III is about to start and all this drone tech is about to be used to kill a bunch of people and already is. I'm not personally worried about nuclear weapons, not that one can't be used, but a nuclear Holocaust doesn't make sense for anyone to do based off anyone's stated goals. I'm worried about artificial intelligence being used to deploy genetic targeting bioweapons as a plan to depopulate the Earth for the green agenda. No accidents it's all being done on purpose, just like IBM and big tech of the 1930's and 40's helped the Nazis run the holocaust.

Very not good:

US warns Russia may be ready to use new lethal missile against Ukraine again in 'coming days'

The Pentagon says Russia could launch its lethal new intermediate-range ballistic missile against Ukraine again soon.

apnews.com

Show me actual proof that validates the idea that I don’t know as much about the subject as you do. I mean real evidence, not things chiseled into stone by flea-infested people 4,000 years ago. Let me quote myself again from our last conversation about AI: 'If AI were as smart as you claim, it would eliminate humanity as a whole.' We are simply not efficient when it comes to repetitive tasks. The easiest way to do that would be nuclear war. You can’t simultaneously claim there’s some super-advanced AI and insist that it has guardrails put in place by the elites. So much for being 'super-advanced.' Also, it’s rather hypocritical to say you're worried about AI but not nuclear war, which actually has the machinery in place to make it happen.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

AGAIN TROLL, SHOW ME WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR MATH WANT HIGHER PAYING JOBS!!!

Read what I said then read it again because apparently you have no idea what the word IF means you idiot. I said IF they have reached a dead end. I don't presume to speak for anyone. That is your ignorance.

How about you instead show me proof that the basic biological human nature to advance is not real.
Show me where humans, as a whole, pursue failure.
Until you do, human nature (and the biological nature of all living things) is to advance, otherwise there would no longer BE humans.
Your extensive study and degree in BIOLGY should have taught you that.

So until you prove otherwise, knock it off with your idiotic request for proof that workers want more money for the same output.
You sound like a ******* moron asking for such a thing.
Why not also ask me to prove that people want to eat food, that they need oxygen to live, or that the sun appears to rise in the east and set in the west.

A majority of low wage workers surveyed support increased minimum wages. Not even LIVING wages, just MINIMUM wages. MAJORITY means at least 51%
So that's an absolute MINIMUM of 37 MILLION people.

Now show me all the jobs that you think those low-wage workers can just "get" in order to be able to pay their bills without going into debt, without welfare, and without the ability to sponge off of someone else in order to avoid HAVING a bill to pay.

You don't even have to show me 37 million jobs. Show me just TEN million jobs that they can just "get" in order to increase their income.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope...your standard...you said it, you prove it...

You want me to prove that Trump said something, when you refuse to even accept video of him saying something as proof that he said something?

So you create an impossible ask in order to avoid being wrong. Like a petulant child.
Got it.

Funny how you keep falling back on your impossible ask when you are asked to back up your own personal claims, huh?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You want me to prove that Trump said something

No I want you to prove he lied 30,000 times...

when you refuse to even accept video of him saying something as proof that he said something?

I've said nothing about your video because it doesn't show he lied 30,000 times like you claim...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

How about you instead show me proof that the basic biological human nature to advance is not real.
Show me where humans, as a whole, pursue failure.
Until you do, human nature (and the biological nature of all living things) is to advance, otherwise there would no longer BE humans.
Your extensive study and degree in BIOLGY should have taught you that.

So until you prove otherwise, knock it off with your idiotic request for proof that workers want more money for the same output.
You sound like a ******* moron asking for such a thing.
Why not also ask me to prove that people want to eat food, that they need oxygen to live, or that the sun appears to rise in the east and set in the west.

A majority of low wage workers surveyed support increased minimum wages. Not even LIVING wages, just MINIMUM wages. MAJORITY means at least 51%
So that's an absolute MINIMUM of 37 MILLION people.

Now show me all the jobs that you think those low-wage workers can just "get" in order to be able to pay their bills without going into debt, without welfare, and without the ability to sponge off of someone else in order to avoid HAVING a bill to pay.

You don't even have to show me 37 million jobs. Show me just TEN million jobs that they can just "get" in order to increase their income.

Eat shit troll. We aren't here to prove your assumptions. You aren't arguing human nature you made a definitive statement that you keep demanding WE prove to you. So stop spinning, stop trying to now be vague, stop your misdirection and back up your bullshit. There is no amount of anything you can keep typing for the next 1000+ pages that will change the fact that you made a claim based on assumptions and are demanding that we argue your assumption.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

How about you instead show me proof that the basic biological human nature to advance is not real.
Show me where humans, as a whole, pursue failure.
Until you do, human nature (and the biological nature of all living things) is to advance, otherwise there would no longer BE humans.
Your extensive study and degree in BIOLGY should have taught you that.

I am going to point out that you think that people making minimum wage have failed. Plenty of people making minimum wage have no need or desire to make any more money. These include teenagers still living at home, students, people just wanting some experience. It's nice to read how you see the world and how you classify people by how much money they make. You are true piece of shit. Tell us how everyone should live to your ideology without saying it. ******* troll.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Trump already increasing oil output and he hasn't even taken office yet.

https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20241211219/exxon-pouring-140-billion-into-the-permian-basin-after-rise-in-third-quarter-production

 

[Old_Slapper]

Hey Rob.
I'm still waiting for your response to my post #5975. That's where I gave you all the facts about a ***** being human and even your pro-abortion biologists agree. I guess your silence tells us that you know you were proven wrong.