Ive done them. At the same time. Also try Nitrix. That shit makes your body feel insane. I only used it for like 2 months
When I was drinking 3 protein shakes a day and using that creatine mix, i forget the name its a flavored powder. Im pretty sure it was called celltec, After about 6 months of that and working out 1-2 times a day, usually 10 times a week, I went up 20 lbs. It takes a lot for me to gain weight. But people said they definitely say me get bigger.
Thats just what seemed to work for me. Im no pro.