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That has nothing to do with what I said. What is the value added by an employee turning a bolt? Without a union, would they make the same wage?
The bolt isn't going to turn itself. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif I don't know what you are asking. There is more to working an assembly line then turning one bolt.

 
I am asking this:
In the absense of the union, do you think the employees would make the same wage? Simple yes or no question.
The world is different now then it was 30 years ago. New hires (if there are any) only make $14 an hour. The people making over $25 an hour have been with the company over 20 years.

 
Wonder what those 3 letters will do if the Big 3 go bankrupt? I doubt the Nissans, Toyotas, and Hondas are going to welcome the UAW with open arms, especially if the perception is that the UAW played a hand in it.
Look at where the Japaneese set up plants here. It dam sure is not in areas that are union friendly.

BTW, the jobs are still good jobs. You just don't have all the insanity of the UAW demands.

I spoke with a guy who used to have an independent equipment maintenance company in Michigan. Each year his company would perform maintenance on some of the machinery for one of the auto companies over the 4th of July weekend.

According to this guy, the union contract required the company to have 3 union employees on the clock for every employee who there working for an independent contractor. In addition, the union employees were each paid 3x their normal rate because it was a holiday. None of them, however, were actually needed for the work. So, they just played cards, riding the clock, while the independents were doing the work.

That does not inspire me to open my pocketbook to help those people.

 
I say yes because there will be more competition for the job thus bringing in more qualified people.
Qualified? To put on the same piece using an air tool all day?

Listen, my dumbtastic live with Cheer leading Vietnamese GF in HS walked into a line job thanks to her dad working at Ford.

It doesn't take skill to be "qualified" for. Hence why it is unskilled labor.

 
Look at where the Japaneese set up plants here. It dam sure is not in areas that are union friendly.
BTW, the jobs are still good jobs. You just don't have all the insanity of the UAW demands.

I spoke with a guy who used to have an independent equipment maintenance company in Michigan. Each year his company would perform maintenance on some of the machinery for one of the auto companies over the 4th of July weekend.

According to this guy, the union contract required the company to have 3 union employees on the clock for every employee who there working for an independent contractor. In addition, the union employees were each paid 3x their normal rate because it was a holiday. None of them, however, were actually needed for the work. So, they just played cards, riding the clock, while the independents were doing the work.

That does not inspire me to open my pocketbook to help those people.
Bullshit the UAW people are salary. They weren't "on the clock"

 
Look at where the Japaneese set up plants here. It dam sure is not in areas that are union friendly.
BTW, the jobs are still good jobs. You just don't have all the insanity of the UAW demands.

I spoke with a guy who used to have an independent equipment maintenance company in Michigan. Each year his company would perform maintenance on some of the machinery for one of the auto companies over the 4th of July weekend.

According to this guy, the union contract required the company to have 3 union employees on the clock for every employee who there working for an independent contractor. In addition, the union employees were each paid 3x their normal rate because it was a holiday. None of them, however, were actually needed for the work. So, they just played cards, riding the clock, while the independents were doing the work.

That does not inspire me to open my pocketbook to help those people.
Union bastards.

 
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