misfit138
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a whole new type of aids
You can't be serious. You're going to return your brand new speakers simply because they were built overseas? That's nuts, man.
amartin_72
Banned
Most speakers are from china (quadruple recycled partially mixed metals) and amps from china or korea.
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I am serious but can understand my desires being construed as "nuts". I actually purchased the brand I have under a particluar guise. It is not worth a battle to me and I know things change fast in the manufacturing arena. Often times with out everyone in the loop being enlightened.
Basically, I have a fundamental belief that anything mass produced by the lowest common economic factor will be of lesser quality. If I was specifically looking for cheap and the price was accordingly that is one thing. But I personally am looking for quality and simply with-in my criteria trying to figure out what it would take to experience it. The value would hopefully be realized in the new enjoyment and lasting apreciation of the money spent. Certainly I have a political bent as well but honestly do not see this forum or discussion as a place to vent that.
I would hope this is not a "bad" thing to enquire about when trying to make a buying decision. Though the couple places I frequented sure acted like it was.
Basically, I have a fundamental belief that anything mass produced by the lowest common economic factor will be of lesser quality. If I was specifically looking for cheap and the price was accordingly that is one thing. But I personally am looking for quality and simply with-in my criteria trying to figure out what it would take to experience it. The value would hopefully be realized in the new enjoyment and lasting apreciation of the money spent. Certainly I have a political bent as well but honestly do not see this forum or discussion as a place to vent that.
I would hope this is not a "bad" thing to enquire about when trying to make a buying decision. Though the couple places I frequented sure acted like it was.
misfit138
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You're entitled to do whatever the hell you want, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with those Polk speakers. They aren't the greatest equipment in the world, but they are FAR from the worst. And if you're worried about having high-end equipment, you might want to return that Pioneer amplifier too.
If you want to buy american made equipment, more power to you. But you're going to be looking at some astronomical prices...
If you want to buy american made equipment, more power to you. But you're going to be looking at some astronomical prices...
hatedonmostly
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throwin' hunnits, hunnits
It's not a bad thing, just implausible.
misfit138
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When you soon discover that your decision to buy american made audio equipment will require tons of cash, you can look at some of the stuff that's coming out of Europe. Then you can go back to that local shop and re-purchase those Polk speakers. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Fair enough. I can't say that I feel differently.
I am a huge proponent of American, Japanese, and European produced products, however I have realized that this is close to non existant any more. Even with companies that are known as high end and claim otherwise(arc). You can still support american companies even when the products are made in chinaland. There is a difference between 1 amp board being used in 5 different brands with a msrp spread of 50+% and a product designed, prototyped, tested here and manufactured in china with a given QC standard and tolerances. It is a world economy and unfortunately to compete on a larger scale, it is **** near impossible to do so and turn a profit at a decent price with domestic manufacturing.
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JimJ
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I wouldn't say that, it depends on what segment of the audio market you're targeting.
There are plenty of US companies hand-building electronics at a profit, but you're talking about very low production volumes, high markups, and not the kind of customer you're likely to find on a board like this. Milbert, Lunar, Decware, McIntosh, Cary Audio, Magneplanar, etc.
As for the quality of Chinese-made stuff, there are things I'd recommend, and things I'd avoid like the plague.
misfit138
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I wasn't saying the equipment doesn't exist by any means. My argument starts and stops with the price of high quality american and european stuff.
The vast majority of car audio enthusiasts are looking for decent equipment at an affordable price. Of course there's a market for high-end equipment as well, but the demographic is microscopic in comparison to the average enthusiast. If we all demanded equipment of the absolute highest quality, brands like Power Acoustik and Pyramid would've ceased to exist long ago.
It all boils down to what you can afford. If you can afford to run McIntosh, that's cool. If you have to run MB Quart, that's cool too. But there are people who can afford McIntosh and refuse to buy it based solely on price.
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Just to be clear and fair...I have full intentions of personally absorbing the cost if any for my ecentrics.
I have had the pleasure of listening to some very nice home audio systems. Speakers specifically being a very large part of that equation. I was putting the same emphasis into my autos build. Not trying to seem aloof in my stated desire but mainly priortize how/where the budget is used.
I attempted to purchase an Eclipse 7200 for the build but was notified they were back-ordered. Wanting this for a trip I decided to use the available Kenwood. Though I must say the initial "feel" of the high-end Kenwood leaves much to be desired.
My original criteria was to build a system into a Chevy Tahoe for near 3-4K. I let my desires be known toward the Chinese marketed stuff and left the component decision up to the installer. My last high-end car audio purchase was in 1996. It included an Alpine deck, RF amp and woofer and a set of MB quart components and a custom box into a fullsize pickup. In hindsight I truly believe it sounded better than what I just purchased.
I have had the pleasure of listening to some very nice home audio systems. Speakers specifically being a very large part of that equation. I was putting the same emphasis into my autos build. Not trying to seem aloof in my stated desire but mainly priortize how/where the budget is used.
I attempted to purchase an Eclipse 7200 for the build but was notified they were back-ordered. Wanting this for a trip I decided to use the available Kenwood. Though I must say the initial "feel" of the high-end Kenwood leaves much to be desired.
My original criteria was to build a system into a Chevy Tahoe for near 3-4K. I let my desires be known toward the Chinese marketed stuff and left the component decision up to the installer. My last high-end car audio purchase was in 1996. It included an Alpine deck, RF amp and woofer and a set of MB quart components and a custom box into a fullsize pickup. In hindsight I truly believe it sounded better than what I just purchased.
hrtbrk1
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1ManWreckinCrew
mmats is american aint it?
misfit138
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Does the Pioneer amplifier live up to your expectations? That particular brand is the epitome of mass production.
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