DBfan187
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Supa's mom was here!
Grambling
Chevyaudio
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Grambling and Southern are in Louisiana...Southern is only about 10minutes from LSU.
Jameseypoo
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Keeps it really real.
IU. It may be hard to be focused on college though if you had a hard time in high school. Anyways, IU is a great school.
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I have done some research and have found some excellent schools. I have visited Wabash and done a lot of research on Princetonreview.com
Wabash was fantastic!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif The campus was beautiful and everybody was really nice, not to mention one of my best friends brothers goes here. They seem like the only good school in the midwest thats affordable (97 Academic rating, 93 Quality of life rating) and I was offered 15k per year for 4 years if I applied with a 3.9 GPA, without even looking at my rigorous course selection, SAT score, recommendations, or extracurriculars. I potentially have the possibility to get MUCH more in scholarships (the alumni are very generous) and have nearly a full ride. Tuition/Room/Board and everything would be roughly 32k before scholarships, and nearly a full ride afterwards (my fathers work will contribute 5k/year so price should be virtually nothing). They supposedly have excellent networking and offer internships and the like, but there are several drawbacks. #1 The school is located in a super small town with nothing to do, #2 its an all male school, and the lack of females would be very annoying (Purdue, IU, butler, etc are within 40 or so minutes though) #3 weather sucks
All of the other schools in the region, except maybe Notre Dame, werent that impressive (Butler had 82 Academic rating and 86 Quality of life rating, Xavier had 79 Academic rating and 81 Quality of life rating, Loyola of Chicago had 76 Academic rating and 74 Quality of life). I'd like to attend a smaller school for various reasons (more attention from professors, easier to be focused, etc)
I could probably get accepted into colleges like Vanderbilt or Wake Forest, and am actually in contact with Vanderbilt in the moment. I would have to score a bit higher on the SAT (which is perfectly achievable), but getting admitted shouldnt be much of a problem. The only issue is, my family didnt do well on the Fafsa and are expected to pay 38,000/year for college (what planet are they living on?) Vanderbilt specifically costs >45k and only offers scholarships to 4% of incoming freshman (they will consider you if you score a 1500 on the SAT). Vanderbilt scored a 94 Academic rating and 86 Quality of life rating, which was less than Wabash (esp on the quality of life rating). It would be nice for the networking, weather, and the big city environment, but is ~$200,000 of debt after 4 years worth it?
What do you guys think? Should I go to Wabash for an undergraduate degree and apply to the top Ivy Leagues for graduate school or should I go to a high level school for undergraduate also?
I've also wondered, do graduate schools take your major into account when admitting you? I plan on taking difficult majors, which are much more difficult to get excellent grades in.
Wabash was fantastic!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif The campus was beautiful and everybody was really nice, not to mention one of my best friends brothers goes here. They seem like the only good school in the midwest thats affordable (97 Academic rating, 93 Quality of life rating) and I was offered 15k per year for 4 years if I applied with a 3.9 GPA, without even looking at my rigorous course selection, SAT score, recommendations, or extracurriculars. I potentially have the possibility to get MUCH more in scholarships (the alumni are very generous) and have nearly a full ride. Tuition/Room/Board and everything would be roughly 32k before scholarships, and nearly a full ride afterwards (my fathers work will contribute 5k/year so price should be virtually nothing). They supposedly have excellent networking and offer internships and the like, but there are several drawbacks. #1 The school is located in a super small town with nothing to do, #2 its an all male school, and the lack of females would be very annoying (Purdue, IU, butler, etc are within 40 or so minutes though) #3 weather sucks
All of the other schools in the region, except maybe Notre Dame, werent that impressive (Butler had 82 Academic rating and 86 Quality of life rating, Xavier had 79 Academic rating and 81 Quality of life rating, Loyola of Chicago had 76 Academic rating and 74 Quality of life). I'd like to attend a smaller school for various reasons (more attention from professors, easier to be focused, etc)
I could probably get accepted into colleges like Vanderbilt or Wake Forest, and am actually in contact with Vanderbilt in the moment. I would have to score a bit higher on the SAT (which is perfectly achievable), but getting admitted shouldnt be much of a problem. The only issue is, my family didnt do well on the Fafsa and are expected to pay 38,000/year for college (what planet are they living on?) Vanderbilt specifically costs >45k and only offers scholarships to 4% of incoming freshman (they will consider you if you score a 1500 on the SAT). Vanderbilt scored a 94 Academic rating and 86 Quality of life rating, which was less than Wabash (esp on the quality of life rating). It would be nice for the networking, weather, and the big city environment, but is ~$200,000 of debt after 4 years worth it?
What do you guys think? Should I go to Wabash for an undergraduate degree and apply to the top Ivy Leagues for graduate school or should I go to a high level school for undergraduate also?
I've also wondered, do graduate schools take your major into account when admitting you? I plan on taking difficult majors, which are much more difficult to get excellent grades in.
JimJ
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How are they doing these "ratings"?
I'd be a little skeptical of that...who cares if a school ranked lower on whatever scale they're using, if you connect with the campus, that's all that matters.
I'd be a little skeptical of that...who cares if a school ranked lower on whatever scale they're using, if you connect with the campus, that's all that matters.
msimon
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If you end up doing engineering you should definitely look at Purdue and University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign. Both have excellent engineering programs but they are definitely not small schools like you said that you wanted. If you have money you might also want to look at University of Michigan, but out of state tuition is very steep. I am a freshman in ME at UIUC, and those schools were my top three choices.
Nevertheless, I would take what you hear on the internet with a grain of salt. You should actually visit all of the schools that you are interested in, preferably during the school year so you can see what the school is really like.
Nevertheless, I would take what you hear on the internet with a grain of salt. You should actually visit all of the schools that you are interested in, preferably during the school year so you can see what the school is really like.
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Princetonreview.com is doing the ratings and I trust their opinion, although minute differences +/- 5 are negligible but when a school scores in the low 80s its hard to compare it to schools which score in the mid 90s...something must be up you know?
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I have been considering various degrees and have come to some conclusions. Engineers arent successful unless they are the plant manager or have some sort of business degree, Medical/Chemical Researchers dont make much $$$. I have to decide between some sort of medical profession, being a lawyer, or going to graduate school at one of the top tier ivy leagues and getting an MBA. Something along those lines.
Also, I'd love to visit Vanderbilt but with 6 hours is a long way to drive.
msimon
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It sounds like making money is the biggest consideration in choosing your school/major. I hope that works out for you...
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Being highly successful and taking the most out of the opportunities I've been given is my main goal. I dont know enough about those specific avenues yet to make a concrete decision. I'd love for money to be a second thought and not a constant stress/worry when I'm older.
If you want to be pessimistic, I guess you could word it that way.
If you want to be pessimistic, I guess you could word it that way.
nosaj070
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Alright I've got a couple things...
First, if you are looking into business, getting your MBA is a long way off. Most grad schools won't even look at you until you have 2-3 years of experience, and I believe Wharton and the like what 5 now. As far as preparing, major in whatever you want, get good grades (Especially math grades), take the GMAT soon after college and dominate it. Then make sure you have a good job that is going to get you good experience, and give you a concrete path that you want to pursue in your career.
With med and law school, it is obviously much different as you don't need experience before hand, so that depends more heavily on your undergrad degree.
With engineering, you can make some bank if that is what you are concerned about. Obviously in the long run you won't be making a million bucks, but just because you don't have a business degree doesn't mean you can't learn business while you are being an engineer. Then when you are older you can take on an executive management position and advance from there into the higher salaries.
Now as far as schools go, there have been some good choices tossed out there. Wabash, its a good school, but like you said its all guys, small as shit, and last I hear you just basically get hazed by seniors, to me it doesn't sound so great.
IU is a good school, but you are definetly going to have to keep an excellent GPA as it isn't really that difficult to get into, so you'll need to set yourself apart.
If you are sure about engineering go Purdue, otherwise I don't know what else I'd recommend it for that you are looking into (I'm sure their pre-med program is good though).
Ohio State is really improving, very quickly, and a substantial amount. Not to mention their grad schools (Especially medical) are very good, and going there undergrad will definitely improve your chances.
You mentioned Xavier, Xavier sucks. So does Butler
Although I'm slightly biased, you left out Miami University (Its in Ohio). I realize its public, but it is a very good school for a good price. Also chances are that you would get some money from them. They have a great undergrad business program (Accounting is top 10). They have a very good pre-med program as well but their engineering program really isn't much to write home about so unless you can rule that out you may want to look elsewhere.
Penn State is also a great school, although that is even more than Miami out of state. Good luck with whatever you choose.
First, if you are looking into business, getting your MBA is a long way off. Most grad schools won't even look at you until you have 2-3 years of experience, and I believe Wharton and the like what 5 now. As far as preparing, major in whatever you want, get good grades (Especially math grades), take the GMAT soon after college and dominate it. Then make sure you have a good job that is going to get you good experience, and give you a concrete path that you want to pursue in your career.
With med and law school, it is obviously much different as you don't need experience before hand, so that depends more heavily on your undergrad degree.
With engineering, you can make some bank if that is what you are concerned about. Obviously in the long run you won't be making a million bucks, but just because you don't have a business degree doesn't mean you can't learn business while you are being an engineer. Then when you are older you can take on an executive management position and advance from there into the higher salaries.
Now as far as schools go, there have been some good choices tossed out there. Wabash, its a good school, but like you said its all guys, small as shit, and last I hear you just basically get hazed by seniors, to me it doesn't sound so great.
IU is a good school, but you are definetly going to have to keep an excellent GPA as it isn't really that difficult to get into, so you'll need to set yourself apart.
If you are sure about engineering go Purdue, otherwise I don't know what else I'd recommend it for that you are looking into (I'm sure their pre-med program is good though).
Ohio State is really improving, very quickly, and a substantial amount. Not to mention their grad schools (Especially medical) are very good, and going there undergrad will definitely improve your chances.
You mentioned Xavier, Xavier sucks. So does Butler
Although I'm slightly biased, you left out Miami University (Its in Ohio). I realize its public, but it is a very good school for a good price. Also chances are that you would get some money from them. They have a great undergrad business program (Accounting is top 10). They have a very good pre-med program as well but their engineering program really isn't much to write home about so unless you can rule that out you may want to look elsewhere.
Penn State is also a great school, although that is even more than Miami out of state. Good luck with whatever you choose.
you should look at university of michigan. over 70% of michigan's academic programs are top 10 in the country, and over 90% are top 20 in the country. overall the school ranked 24th in the country.
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