Uneducated people Only people I trust about car audio use the principal trial and err. I would light a pyle amp on fire don't try to put words in my mouth. I have never ran a scope on any amp I have ever owned out of the 100 and something amps. There is one reason why, I have never owned 2 of the same amps that ever performed exactly the same and I didn't care. I don't nut hug any company I buy amp if it doesn't do what I want it to do I sell it. Just because there is alot of people on the forums that read alot of post doesn't make them educated. It just means they read alot of half *** information. Right now I'm running a sd 8k before that was a ss 10k,ss 6500d, orion 2500d, ap3000d,2 aq2200s. I can keep going get the point never had a problem with ap amps sold 3 of them after using them there still running. I have had more problems with big name amps that alot of people swear by rf,aq,mtx,jl,phoenix gold old school way before rival, soundstream ref 500s. To sum it up if you like the amp run it if you don't like it don't. It seems alot of people like to argue down to little technicalities when they have no real proof besides my 3000 watt amp costed $1000 so it has to be better and there has to be a reason besides someone just bent me over a table.