Car Speaker Upgrade

[JohnKuthe]

Yeah and when you bought your amp did you research to see what transistors they use? Probably not and most people on here probably don't either. I'm sure some do but it doesn't really matter unless you're really picky about your equipment, which you probably aren't since you used alpine.

Not at all! I trusted Alpine with the trasnsistor selection process

 

[JohnKuthe]

its not that easy..
how do you know your h/u does not distort all the way up.

do you know how to set a amp gain ?

whats your budget??

They bite you around here if you don't set your amp gains correctly! I burned a 12" sub and a door 6x9 then took it to a shop to have the speakers which I brought installed and the amp gains set. WOW! What an improvement! I could sneak the V9 amp up a little but...This is pretty good! And I don't burn out speakers because I am now very distortion shy!

John Kuthe...

 

[big scott]

well your a dumb ass

we all know it.

 

[JohnKuthe]

well your a dumb ass
we all know it.

But as usual I have to learn the hard way! And boy did I!

John Kuthe...

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

They bite you around here if you don't set your amp gains correctly! I burned a 12" sub and a door 6x9 then took it to a shop to have the speakers which I brought installed and the amp gains set. WOW! What an improvement! I could sneak the V9 amp up a little but...This is pretty good! And I don't burn out speakers because I am now very distortion shy!
John Kuthe...

Something everyone knows.....I figured by now you should also but doubt it. It's a big part of the car audio world to get the cleanest possible signal. In other words....SO YOU DON'T CLIP!!!

You clipped your sub. Everyone knows this. Quit acting like it wasn't your fault.

 

[ChaseinBass]

Something everyone knows.....I figured by now you should also but doubt it. It's a big part of the car audio world to get the cleanest possible signal. In other words....SO YOU DON'T CLIP!!!
You clipped your sub. Everyone knows this. Quit acting like it wasn't your fault.

I just dont see how that was even possible? It was only on a 500 watt amp and sub was rated at 600 ? I had a C2 audio 600 watt sub ( china cookie cutter sub ) and I tried to blow it up full gains full level on hu and bass boost at max volume on 1500 watts clipped to hell and couldnt hurt it and its in another car with a newb pounding it now ? must of been a weak sub to begin with ?

 

[JohnKuthe]

Something everyone knows.....I figured by now you should also but doubt it. It's a big part of the car audio world to get the cleanest possible signal. In other words....SO YOU DON'T CLIP!!!
You clipped your sub. Everyone knows this. Quit acting like it wasn't your fault.

I totally accepted person responsibility for it, why can you not see that?

John Kuthe...

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Because your hard headed. I don't think it's sunk in yet.

 

[Flipper245]

I just dont see how that was even possible? It was only on a 500 watt amp and sub was rated at 600 ? I had a C2 audio 600 watt sub ( china cookie cutter sub ) and I tried to blow it up full gains full level on hu and bass boost at max volume on 1500 watts clipped to hell and couldnt hurt it and its in another car with a newb pounding it now ? must of been a weak sub to begin with ?

So are you arguing that kuthe wasn't capable of misusing his equipment and that clipping doesn't hurt speakers? I'm sure there's a good explanation to why your sub didn't blow.

 

[ChaseinBass]

So are you arguing that kuthe wasn't capable of misusing his equipment and that clipping doesn't hurt speakers? I'm sure there's a good explanation to why your sub didn't blow.

No not at all. Just seems like it would be hard to blow on that low of power? I am no expert I just learn from doing and from listening here.

Just my observation on the 500 watt amp and 600 watt sub ? I always tended to use bigger amps that need be for the subs I have had. But that was the first time I intentionally tried to blow the sub. Granted all the other amps gains were set with my Ds nano and I do know where my Hu clips and never exceed those limits. And I do understand that subs will take way more power when its clean power. I guess I just struck me as odd based on my experiences after box rise the power does not seem like it would be enough to hurt anything ? and again I am not a professional installer as many of you are and dont see this kind of stuff as often as you probably do.

 

[jermeljbh7]

Yes, I know how to install an amp. I was planning on running my rca cables from the outputs on the back of the radio, and then running each channel on the amp directly to each speaker.

 

[Flipper245]

No not at all. Just seems like it would be hard to blow on that low of power? I am no expert I just learn from doing and from listening here.Just my observation on the 500 watt amp and 600 watt sub ? I always tended to use bigger amps that need be for the subs I have had. But that was the first time I intentionally tried to blow the sub. Granted all the other amps gains were set with my Ds nano and I do know where my Hu clips and never exceed those limits. And I do understand that subs will take way more power when its clean power. I guess I just struck me as odd based on my experiences after box rise the power does not seem like it would be enough to hurt anything ? and again I am not a professional installer as many of you are and dont see this kind of stuff as often as you probably do.

Yeah I'm no pro either. Always run more power too. I've never blown a sub but I've gotten them a bit stinky from clipping with Amps that were rated less than I needed to properly power the sub. It just makes me nervous. If something doesn't sound right I ease up. That's why my car is very dead. When the volume gets up there it's sometimes hard to tell distortion from rattle and vehicle noise.