Car Detailing

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

I have lived in the same area for 3 years. I had a 99 Grand Prix GT that never had orange spots on it. My new car has random orange spots all over. The only thing that has changed is my job. I assume its some sort of iron deposit from a metal factory in the area of my new job.

Anyone know how to remove them from the paint without a claybar? Ive read distilled vinegar will work. I cant use a claybar because where I live its far to windy and my garage doesnt have over head lights in it so I cant apply the sealant there either.

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[jtomsic 5,000+ posts]

what does wind have to do with claybaring a car? ive done it numerous times without a garage also.

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

what does wind have to do with claybaring a car? ive done it numerous times without a garage also.

You have to apply a sealant. Where Im at Im surrounded by hills and its windy so dirty blows around. I dont want it between my paint and my sealant.

 

[jtomsic 5,000+ posts]

ah ok i got ya i never had that problem i had a spray sealant when i did mine that was like a wax...was easy and came out great...

 

[xX J Brutal Xx 10+ year member]

it's usually metal dust from being transported on the railroad.

 

[pbnj22 10+ year member]

i see that a lot here in minnesota but the orange is clay from the mines here... i detail cars as a job and we just use 1500 grit rubbing compound and a buffer, claybar is obviously the first choice but since you cant..

 

[DarkScorpion 10+ year member]

By sealant, I hope you're just using a more technical term for wax haha. Claying removes basically everything that make be embedded in the clearcoat (or paint if you have single stage paint) as well as what's on top of it, including old wax which may have been on there. This would leave your paint without a final layer of protection, which is essentially the purpose of wax, and hence why you should reapply wax after claying.

 

[ktraughb 10+ year member]

I run a detail shop. To use a claybar you simply only need to use a lubricant such as meguiars quick detailer (consumer version) and a clay bar and a microfiber towel. A sealant is just a synthetic style of "wax" if you will. Sealant is optional. Those marks come from either railroads, shipyards, or seriously burnt rotors and brakes. You can clay outside all you want, the lubricant just evaporates quickly. It will not harm anything if it blows in the wind except your eyes. And still its mostly water.

 

[DarkScorpion 10+ year member]

I run a detail shop. To use a claybar you simply only need to use a lubricant such as meguiars quick detailer (consumer version) and a clay bar and a microfiber towel. A sealant is just a synthetic style of "wax" if you will. Sealant is optional. Those marks come from either railroads, shipyards, or seriously burnt rotors and brakes. You can clay outside all you want, the lubricant just evaporates quickly. It will not harm anything if it blows in the wind except your eyes. And still its mostly water.

Nail on the head. I use Meguiar's Quik Detailer (not the ultimate version) as lubricant for claying as well, works perfectly, smells nice too (Meguiar's puts scents in a lot of their products haha). You can wax in the wind, no problem. Wash, clay, wax, done.

 

[destined2race 10+ year member]

I run a detail shop. To use a claybar you simply only need to use a lubricant such as meguiars quick detailer (consumer version) and a clay bar and a microfiber towel. A sealant is just a synthetic style of "wax" if you will. Sealant is optional. Those marks come from either railroads, shipyards, or seriously burnt rotors and brakes. You can clay outside all you want, the lubricant just evaporates quickly. It will not harm anything if it blows in the wind except your eyes. And still its mostly water.

Yep, its most commonly called "rail dust" in the auto industry, I own detail shop and we do it a lot. Its commonly started by transportation when there new, but can come from other sources as well. You can use water if you really wanted lol, it just dries faster and then youd need to hand wax or whatever after. But usually a spray wax(like the meguiars mentioned or similiar) works best with it. And doing it outside is no big deal as mentioned, youll just end up using more as it dries faster.