Can 8’s get loud?

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I compared a square kicker L7 8 to 2 8s, not a single 8. You’re right, they do have a larger cone area than a single 8, but not 2, and I’m not actually saying they aren’t decent subs, but they do need to be in a properly sized box, which happens to be twice as large as a lot of other 8s need. I’ve choked kicker subs into small boxes many times for customers who insisted on it, and the results were less than stellar. I actually like them better sealed than ported. 2 of their square subs in a sealed enclosure is about the same sized box as doing 1 of them ported, which is where their extra cone area can be an advantage. IMO.

Have you been around long enough to see shards of a kicker L model cone stuck in a customer's headliner?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I compared a square kicker L7 8 to 2 8s, not a single 8. You’re right, they do have a larger cone area than a single 8, but not 2, and I’m not actually saying they aren’t decent subs, but they do need to be in a properly sized box, which happens to be twice as large as a lot of other 8s need. I’ve choked kicker subs into small boxes many times for customers who insisted on it, and the results were less than stellar. I actually like them better sealed than ported. 2 of their square subs in a sealed enclosure is about the same sized box as doing 1 of them ported, which is where their extra cone area can be an advantage. IMO.

It just depends. Like there's some 8's that require larger boxes but will absolutely smash lower quality 8's. That's one thing I really like about DC is their smaller subs, say 12" and under, perform so well in in relatively small boxes. Like one of their 12's in a 1.5-1.75 net box is killer man. Even their 15's are. Like my buddy's box I built for a single level 3. 3.5 cubes isn't the smallest airspace but it's on the smaller end of box sizes for 15's. And I don't feel like I loose anything compared to say putting a Fi or DD in a 4.5 cube box.

With the 8's, there's some 8's that just on another level compared to what people typically think an 8" is. Like Sundown, for example, or DD's 1508's. Idc what size box they need, they're awesome.

 

[SlugButter]

I ran DD and sundown, and can agree that they smash kicker all day. They also don’t require 1.25 cubes to do it. That was my point to begin with.

 

[SlugButter]

I’d take the little Dayton ultimax 8 I have now over the kickers, and it’s only 300 watts. When you’re running 8s, you’re likely dealing with space issues to begin with, or I’d start suggesting larger subs anyway.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I ran DD and sundown, and can agree that they smash kicker all day. They also don’t require 1.25 cubes to do it. That was my point to begin with.

Yeah I'm following you, no disagreement. I'm saying it's tough with 8's to find that balance. I am saying that if the higher quality subs take more space to work, then so be it. But that'll be up to whoever's system it is.

I want to do a series 6th order with like 64 8's or something. Anybody wanna buy 64 8's and let me design it?

 

[SlugButter]

Yeah I'm following you, no disagreement. I'm saying it's tough with 8's to find that balance. I am saying that if the higher quality subs take more space to work, the so be it. But that'll be up to whoever's system it is.

I want to do a series 6th order with like 64 8's or something. Anybody wanna buy 64 8's and let me design it?

Getting a pallet of subs delivered for a single install would be a good story to tell.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Getting a pallet of subs delivered for a single install would be a good story to tell.

Be like "yeah, I'm going to put all of these in a geo metro."

That's like the dude, I forget his name, it was beautiful build IMO, who did the 48 sa-12's in that ford dually. 8's have come a long way in the past dozen years or so, since I started.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

sundown x or sa ?

E8. Originals. On a Sundown sae-1200. Cool ass custom box that fit behind the seats. Firing up. There's pics on here somewhere but it's been long ago. Then I took out the passenger seat and put a z15 on a 1500 in.

 

[jt4x4]

Isn't the engine behind the seats in an MR2?

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Isn't the engine behind the seats in an MR2?

M = mid engine
R = rear wheel drive
2 = two seater

 

[jt4x4]

M = mid engine
R = rear wheel drive
2 = two seater

Rhetorical question. The correct answer would have been "yes".

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Rhetorical question. The correct answer would have been "yes".

I liked my answer much better.

 

[jt4x4]

I liked my answer much better.

Of course you did, because it added to your post count without actually answering a question.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Of course you did, because it added to your post count without actually answering a question.

Um it answer the question. And then some. Bro.

 

[SlugButter]

I didn’t know what it meant. More useless information that I can never get out of my head now.

 

[jt4x4]

Um it answer the question. And then some. Bro.

If someone asks a yes or no question, and you don't answer with yes or no, how "it answer the question"?

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

If someone asks a yes or no question, and you don't answer with yes or no, how "it answer the question"?

Maybe that's just the difference between me and you. You do know that it's ok to be different right? You ask me a question, imma answer however the f*ck I want. If you don't like it then that's your problem.

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

Be like "yeah, I'm going to put all of these in a geo metro."

That's like the dude, I forget his name, it was beautiful build IMO, who did the 48 sa-12's in that ford dually. 8's have come a long way in the past dozen years or so, since I started.

Hank Veach. That's where I got the inspiration to do a 24 15" build.

 

[Lasherž]

If someone asks a yes or no question, and you don't answer with yes or no, how "it answer the question"?

Just think of it as a bump that keeps it at the top of the forum, so long as it's not actual spam like people who post 10 posts with 10 pictures instead of one post with 10 pictures.

 

[jt4x4]

Maybe that's just the difference between me and you. You do know that it's ok to be different right? You ask me a question, imma answer however the f*ck I want. If you don't like it then that's your problem.

That's not how effective communication works, but it explains why you spend so much time on the internet.