C2 Audio Threatcon-2 vs Strato-12D4

[SounDrive Pro Seller]

I like how everyone nuthugs C2 but hasn't actually seen real world results from them yet. Typical of this forum.

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

I like how everyone nuthugs C2 but hasn't actually seen real world results from them yet. Typical of this forum.

Agreed I was not impressed with the owners claims either a 141 outta 1 12 should be child's play if you designed the sub you should already know the perfect box for the sub and the whole 3inch coil think means nothing if it can't mechanically take more than 1200w.

Personally the stratos have proven themselves of there worth and I won't pay Kevin so the audiotechnic subs would be my choice

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

strato 400 watts 2.5 vc, Skar vvx proven but your buying used ( you never know if the sub is abused) C2 600 watts 3 inch voice coil, so actually beefier sub.

regarding the 1200watt max on the C2 are you really going to put that much power on these subs? I doubt it.

Fpr the money C2 is my choice and by the way free shipping from a well known Car Audio website.

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

strato 400 watts 2.5 vc, Skar vvx proven but your buying used ( you never know if the sub is abused) C2 600 watts 3 inch voice coil, so actually beefier sub.
regarding the 1200watt max on the C2 are you really going to put that much power on these subs? I doubt it.

Fpr the money C2 is my choice and by the way free shipping from a well known Car Audio website.

You still push the 3inch coil but if you aren't using that much power not that it can take much to sign with then why would you want to run a heavier less efficient coil. Usually the added power makes up for the inefficiencies but it can't take enough power to justify to bigger coil. My bet is the motor cooling ***** so they made it up with a bigger voice coil

And the fact that the coil jumps gap at 1200w leads me to believe it uses soft spiders which don't require much if any break-in not that I believe a sub need to be broke in. I threw many dd subs on full power out of the box an only had one problem which turned out to be box related and those subs are stuff as hell. I threw 1200w to a set of comp tens out of the box and they didn't have a problem. They actually sounded great surprisingly and I sold them with shiny coils and no defects.

So how does a 150w sub hold 4x rated power with a 1.5inch voice coil but this barely handles double with double the coil size an an easy 4x the coil surface area

My pick is really none of these subs you want a good sub for uber cheap get a QPower new deluxe 3inch coil in the 12 and I've personally seen them take serious abuse like dumb pot heads clipping them for 6months and comin back for 4more to have 6 12s we used to use dirty crunch pz1500.1s for power to.

I might actually use them myself in my next build to see what I can squeeze outta that cheap azz sub

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

strato 400 watts 2.5 vc, Skar vvx proven but your buying used ( you never know if the sub is abused) C2 600 watts 3 inch voice coil, so actually beefier sub.
regarding the 1200watt max on the C2 are you really going to put that much power on these subs? I doubt it.

Fpr the money C2 is my choice and by the way free shipping from a well known Car Audio website.

You always say this same BS. a 3" coil doesn't mean a thing if you can't use it to it's potential. Just cause it has a bigger coil doesn't mean it's better.

You're the biggest C2 nuthugger yet you have absolutely no tests, data, meter results or anything to back up your claims.

And yes people are going to put 1200 watts to it, come on it's a 3" coil, do you seriously think people aren't going to throw way over rated to it? Most people who buy a 3" coil sub don't buy it to run a measly 600 watts.

I don't know anything about the sub or its performance, but I really don't expect it to perform any better than any of the other entry level 600 watt 2.5" coil subs.

 

[Phoenix Risen 10+ year member]

we had a strato-10 on a dsc 1500.1 at 1ohm with the gain cut back a bit, was doing at or just above 1k and the little 10 never flinched at it, it loved the power, i personally wouldnt throw 1k daily at a C2 it would probably shit the bed...

and I'm glad im not the only one that thinks everybody hugging this brand is comical. this is the first sub they have ever produced, and it just started shipping the other day, like 5 people have heard them so far. and I havent seen any real test results on them. they are an unknown, they very well could be complete junk, the only vid up of one is the owners right hand man, who cant turn the amp up yet because its in the 500rms 10 hour break in period.

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

There's nothing that really stands out about the sub compared to other subs except the $129 pricetag, and 99% of the time when something is cheap, there is a reason why it's cheap.

I'm not trying to bash the brand since I know nothing about it, but it's ridiculous that so many people are nuthugging something they know nothing about, other than it being a 3" coil.

Who knows, the sub could be amazing; i just don't see it though.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Moral subs have a 6 inch coil right? I bet they can take 6000 watts all day.

Dude get off the nuts, that sub is nothing special and has shown to NOT be beefy

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

Op are you putting 1200w each sub on what ever sub you buy?

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

You still push the 3inch coil but if you aren't using that much power not that it can take much to sign with then why would you want to run a heavier less efficient coil. Usually the added power makes up for the inefficiencies but it can't take enough power to justify to bigger coil. My bet is the motor cooling ***** so they made it up with a bigger voice coil
And the fact that the coil jumps gap at 1200w leads me to believe it uses soft spiders which don't require much if any break-in not that I believe a sub need to be broke in. I threw many dd subs on full power out of the box an only had one problem which turned out to be box related and those subs are stuff as hell. I threw 1200w to a set of comp tens out of the box and they didn't have a problem. They actually sounded great surprisingly and I sold them with shiny coils and no defects.

So how does a 150w sub hold 4x rated power with a 1.5inch voice coil but this barely handles double with double the coil size an an easy 4x the coil surface area

My pick is really none of these subs you want a good sub for uber cheap get a QPower new deluxe 3inch coil in the 12 and I've personally seen them take serious abuse like dumb pot heads clipping them for 6months and comin back for 4more to have 6 12s we used to use dirty crunch pz1500.1s for power to.

I might actually use them myself in my next build to see what I can squeeze outta that cheap azz sub

i personally used those q power deluxe before but the VVME when they were $60 bucks is better. i would wait if those VVME will go down on price again

 

[C2 Audio 10+ year member]

Just a follow up as I think I need to atleast say something here. 141 on Music NOT a sweep Not a Burp. It was in the back of a Journey sealed up mic on Dash. The idea for the vid was for the guy looking to have a street beater not as a SPL car. I can put one Threatcon-2 12" in a CRX, build a steel and concrete box, tune it to 68HZ burp it and pull a crazy high numbers but honestly what does that prove? Just relax and let me prove the woofer. Let some customers have time to put some you tube vids up and I will also be posting a few more builds over the next few weeks. If you dont like the woofer after you see more than so be it... but for now you need to atleast play with one before making a decision. I understand the skepticism but give C2 a chance to prove the Threatcon-2 sub is the Best Bank for buck woofer on the market under $130. -Chris

 

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

Just a follow up as I think I need to atleast say something here. 141 on Music NOT a sweep Not a Burp. It was in the back of a Journey sealed up mic on Dash. The idea for the vid was for the guy looking to have a street beater not as a SPL car. I can put one Threatcon-2 12" in a CRX, build a steel and concrete box, tune it to 68HZ burp it and pull a crazy high numbers but honestly what does that prove? Just relax and let me prove the woofer. Let some customers have time to put some you tube vids up and I will also be posting a few more builds over the next few weeks. If you dont like the woofer after you see more than so be it... but for now you need to atleast play with one before making a decision. I understand the skepticism but give C2 a chance to prove the Threatcon-2 sub is the Best Bank for buck woofer on the market under $130. -Chris

I think any of the sub company owners should just refrain from posting in said thread. Sound good?

You have no reason to clarify something if someone is misinformed, that's something they can freely lookup on here and takes no time with search. you relax :/ the woofer will prove itself without you. If you want people to play with one, send a few out for free. or have them pay shipping or something. I recommend taylorfade/buck/etc.

 

[C2 Audio 10+ year member]

Agreed

I think any of the sub company owners should just refrain from posting in said thread. Sound good?
You have no reason to clarify something if someone is misinformed, that's something they can freely lookup on here and takes no time with search. you relax :/ the woofer will prove itself without you. If you want people to play with one, send a few out for free. or have them pay shipping or something. I recommend taylorfade/buck/etc.

 

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

I wasn't directly trying to be rude, but I wanted to make it a point that since a few subs are mentioned and none of the owners have thrown in their 2 cents, they should all just remain out of it unless they all agree to post on it as they are all active on the forum and can do so without hassle making it fair for people whom use the woofers to say their opinions on it, it's not like this thread will close tomorrow, as more people use the woofer, they can post here at a later time.

Now im clarifying... ugh. but that was my stance.

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

i personally used those q power deluxe before but the VVME when they were $60 bucks is better. i would wait if those VVME will go down on price again

Didn't you claim 100w out of a vvme 4channel amp push it on people them someone clamped it for 23w clean. I went back and read those post. Your claim of 100w on the amp turned out false so any claim here is going to remain false to me because you seem to not know what you are talking bout reading those old post.

Personally I think you and Reinhardt are just dragging this companies face through the mud by making claims neither of you can back up