Bye Bye GM....Thanx Liberals....

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

Does this means other manufacturers will raise their price on cars?
i'm glad i got an import

You are part of the reason they are going under //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Pay a Japanese company for the work instead of keeping the money here. Maybe thats why our economy is shitty...huh.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

You are part of the reason they are going under //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
Pay a Japanese company for the work instead of keeping the money here. Maybe thats why our economy is shitty...huh.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif more of my toyota 4 runner was manufactured in the US than any other vehicle I have ever owned. That includes multiple GMs and dodges, which are mostly made in mexico and canada

 

[maddskillzz 10+ year member]

OMG...without GM what will all the tow truck drivers and salvage yards do now

 

[RE_XXX]

Right, its the liberals fault for imposing safety measures for the enviorment, even though none of the other auto companies have problems staying afloat, other than ford, with the measures.
Sure its the liberals fault, and not the overinflated wages of union workers and the horrible mismanagement of the company.

Safety measures??? OKAY explain this one....

With the new DPF on the diesels.... less emission are let into the air... BUT as a counter act... fuel mileage is decreased about 25%.... WELL.... your gonna fuel up more... AND guess where that fuel comes from?!?!?!? Oilfield.... In which liberals want to shut down... NOW HOW DOES THAT WORK??

Clifs:

Enviromental DPF and recirculation on new model diesels

Less Fuel Mileage

More Oil to be drilled to meet demand of less fuel mileage

Less Oilfields due to liberal control

Prices rise due to no oil being drilled/import oil prices rise due to demand....

So you pay more.... Use more.... To save More?!?!?!?

Where does it come out even?

Lets see your hybrid pull a 200 ton rig around......

 

[MasterOfAllBass 10+ year member]

bankrupt means they will still stay afloat
might go under might not

id like to see chyrsler/dodge and gm merge

i would to

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif more of my toyota 4 runner was manufactured in the US than any other vehicle I have ever owned. That includes multiple GMs and dodges, which are mostly made in mexico and canada

Designers of the vehicles make money too.

 

[ctt0002 10+ year member]

You are part of the reason they are going under //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
Pay a Japanese company for the work instead of keeping the money here. Maybe thats why our economy is shitty...huh.

Its not my fault that they can't appeal me to buy one of their cars, what a bunch of pos cars they make.

Most of the Jap.'s cars you're talking about are being assembled here. So go **** one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[x1le 10+ year member]

You are part of the reason they are going under //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
Pay a Japanese company for the work instead of keeping the money here. Maybe thats why our economy is shitty...huh.

I remember reading a statistic that import automakers manufacturer more cars in america than domestic automakers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

bankrupt means they will still stay afloat
might go under might not

id like to see chyrsler/dodge and gm merge

i drive a GM for now. id rather see them go belly up instead of a merging with dodge.

only time dodge was a good product was pre-1986

now they are overpriced junk

 

[MasterOfAllBass 10+ year member]

Its not my fault that they can't appeal me to buy one of their cars, what a bunch of pos cars they make.
Most of the Jap.'s cars you're talking about are being assembled here. So go **** one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

this is true

 

[RE_XXX]

Safety measures??? OKAY explain this one....
With the new DPF on the diesels.... less emission are let into the air... BUT as a counter act... fuel mileage is decreased about 25%.... WELL.... your gonna fuel up more... AND guess where that fuel comes from?!?!?!? Oilfield.... In which liberals want to shut down... NOW HOW DOES THAT WORK??

Clifs:

Enviromental DPF and recirculation on new model diesels

Less Fuel Mileage

More Oil to be drilled to meet demand of less fuel mileage

Less Oilfields due to liberal control

Prices rise due to no oil being drilled/import oil prices rise due to demand....

So you pay more.... Use more.... To save More?!?!?!?

Where does it come out even?

Lets see your hybrid pull a 200 ton rig around......

And actually.... its worse than 25%.... My 99 Dodge Cummins gets 21 mpg.... our new 08 Cummins get around 11-12

Can anyone answer me that??? I know of a few oilfield workers on this site... I want to hear a liberals answer?!?!?

 

[MasterOfAllBass 10+ year member]

i drive a GM for now. id rather see them go belly up instead of a merging with dodge. only time dodge was a good product was pre-1986

now they are overpriced junk

my moms 05 dodge caravan has 120,000 miles on it now and no problems yet. not one!

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

OMG...without GM what will all the tow truck drivers and salvage yards do now

they still got a ton of ford (found on road dead) to get. i know personally.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Safety measures??? OKAY explain this one....
With the new DPF on the diesels.... less emission are let into the air... BUT as a counter act... fuel mileage is decreased about 25%.... WELL.... your gonna fuel up more... AND guess where that fuel comes from?!?!?!? Oilfield.... In which liberals want to shut down... NOW HOW DOES THAT WORK??

Clifs:

Enviromental DPF and recirculation on new model diesels

Less Fuel Mileage

More Oil to be drilled to meet demand of less fuel mileage

Less Oilfields due to liberal control

Prices rise due to no oil being drilled/import oil prices rise due to demand....

So you pay more.... Use more.... To save More?!?!?!?

Where does it come out even?

Lets see your hybrid pull a 200 ton rig around......

Laws/regulations force innovation just as much as competition. if they lower mileage 25% they are going to have to figure out ways to make it up.

Designers of the vehicles make money too.

Yea, and the Foreign cars sell better because they are much better designed. You wont find a stripped down toyota model, because it hurts the brand image, if Chevy could offer comprable features in a competitive model there sales wouldnt be in the toilet. So dont blame the consumer for the horrible business practice of GM. go look at the cavalier and put it side by side with a cobalt, there is nothing new or innovative about it.

Now go look at a 95 civic and a 2005 civic, alot more progress made there. Oh yea, they dont look the same either, GM doesnt change the lines of a vehicle unless they absolutely have to

Its not my fault that they can't appeal me to buy one of their cars, what a bunch of pos cars they make.
Most of the Jap.'s cars you're talking about are being assembled here. So go **** one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

I remember reading a statistic that import automakers manufacturer more cars in america than domestic automakers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

Its not my fault that they can't appeal me to buy one of their cars, what a bunch of pos cars they make.
Most of the Jap.'s cars you're talking about are being assembled here. So go **** one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

I remember reading a statistic that import automakers manufacturer more cars in america than domestic automakers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

once again, I'm speaking from more of a designer stand point. Because Honda was able to mass produce a cheap car every body went to them. They broke alot and people paid to fix it. This created a great foundation for them, leaving the American auto makers in a pinch.

Also Chrysler owns dodge which may still be owned by Daimler if I'm not mistaken,who is a German so IDK if its truely an American Auto maker if you look into it.

Now for the record, I have nothing against imports as a car. In fact I used to own in Integra and I;m looking into a Nissan. Difference is I'm looking at used cars, keeping money in the pockets of Americans.