Bring em home

I think the great man we (yes you) chose to be out leader is doing a great job. Should we have just let Saddam stay in power with his WMD??!?!?!

I will pray for all of you that you can someday see the light and see what the government is doing for us and for the Iraqi people.



 
well i may be an idiot to you, but i have about 50 people that tell me the same thing everyday:)
edit; try reading it again obenjamin..
you are an idiot.

wow

bringing our troops home will cause nothing but pain.

we are in a catch 22. If we stay, they will hate us for "invading". If we leave, they will hate us for ditching them in the middle of a war.

we are pwned by the texas rancher man/president.

 
I think the great man we (yes you) chose to be out leader is doing a great job. Should we have just let Saddam stay in power with his WMD??!?!?!
I will pray for all of you that you can someday see the light and see what the government is doing for us and for the Iraqi people.
he had no WMD's.

Lets put it this way. If he is forced to live in a hole, he does not have wmd's.

 
On this note, what about if "Obama" is elected president? He's muslim...think about it. He becomes president, being he is known as one of the islams "terrorist people", he becomes well known of our "secret weapons" and relays messages overseas to those douche bags and boom the US is done for.
Also, if obama became president we wouldnt have our troops as being U.S. Army, or any other branch of military. I say to hell with obama.

Any input on what i said? lmk

p.s.

I as well honor your decision and thoughts expressed bimma85

EDIT; then again it may just be the redneck in me speaking out.
i've got some input on that. you're a complete ****ing moron.

 
I think the great man we (yes you) chose to be out leader is doing a great job. Should we have just let Saddam stay in power with his WMD??!?!?!
I will pray for all of you that you can someday see the light and see what the government is doing for us and for the Iraqi people.
you are joking right?

 
you are an idiot.
wow

bringing our troops home will cause nothing but pain.

we are in a catch 22. If we stay, they will hate us for "invading". If we leave, they will hate us for ditching them in the middle of a war.

we are pwned by the texas rancher man/president.
he isnt from texas, he played the role of a down to earth average good ol boy as his campaign schtick. he's a blue blood spoiled connecticut boy.

 
Yes, we as American citizens have grown weary of the 'conflict', therefore we should pull out. Right? US foreign policy based on popularity polls. How wonderful.
Exactly what our enemies predict. The U.S. is vast, its power is great.... but its attention span is limited, and its backbone is jello. Im amazed we had the stomach to endure the casualties we did in WWII. If we had the same attitude then that we did now, we would have surrendered at Pearl Harbor.

Obama is not a Muslim, but he has close ties to the Muslim community. His father is Muslim, he attended Muslim schools, etc. This does not make his Muslim, but it would be by far the closest we have ever come to electing as such. Seems abit odd, the timing. Either way, the next president of the U.S. will have testicles, and they will be caucasian testicles. And no, I dont mean in her mouth.
how is it that seemingly intelligent people buy into this bullshit? can you honestly not see a difference between wwii, where we were actually preemptively attacked by another nation, a blatant act of war, and us invading and occupying a nation for going on 5 years forrrrr... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

if another powerful world nation that actually posed a thread to us, say russia or china, attacked us today for our oil (yeah, thats why japan picked a fight with us... and isnt that some wild concept, attacking nations for their oil?), do you HONESTLY believe we would be against kicking some ***? i'd be all about it.

what i'm not about is US being the world bullies going around picking fights. what did iraq do to provoke us? or afghanistan? oh thats right, they "harbor, fund, and train terrorists, and have an EVIL government!"

wait... thats about 3/4 of the middle east. seems like we've still got a few more countries to take over and "liberate."

after that, why not just go ahead and set our sights on those ****ed chinamen, they've been actin funny for a few years. see where i'm going with this?

 
Input? How about you not judge people based on their religion? So I guess by that claim, anybody who is a Christian also hates black people and any other minority because the KKK are a "Christian" organization. I guess we can also say that Catholics kill anybody who doesn't believe in their faith because that's what they did during the Crusades.
Guess what? Religion is NOT what drives people to kill other people; it's fueled by hate and led by radicals of the religion who don't truly understand what their religion stands for. I know many Muslims and they are NOT violent people and do NOT support any of the bullshit that these radical terrorists are doing. A couple of my friends honestly believe that they will burn in Hell for it based on their religion.

You know what the best part is? Barack Obama is not even a fuсking Muslim!

They're just as ignorant as you. I hope the majority of the nation is not full of fuсktards like yourself.
THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING HIS DUMBASS

Jesus.
You're an idiot.

You make me ashamed to say that I am from the south...
X2

On this note, what about if "Obama" is elected president? He's muslim...think about it. He becomes president, being he is known as one of the islams "terrorist people", he becomes well known of our "secret weapons" and relays messages overseas to those douche bags and boom the US is done for.
Also, if obama became president we wouldnt have our troops as being U.S. Army, or any other branch of military. I say to hell with obama.

Any input on what i said? lmk

p.s.

I as well honor your decision and thoughts expressed bimma85

EDIT; then again it may just be the redneck in me speaking out.
YOUR FUKCKIN RETARDED

 
how is it that seemingly intelligent people buy into this bullshit? can you honestly not see a difference between wwii, where we were actually preemptively attacked by another nation, a blatant act of war, and us invading and occupying a nation for going on 5 years forrrrr... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif
Wow that was really a good read. Unfortunately I never compared the two conflicts, I compared the attitudes of the people.
if another powerful world nation that actually posed a thread to us, say russia or china, attacked us today for our oil (yeah, thats why japan picked a fight with us... and isnt that some wild concept, attacking nations for their oil?), do you HONESTLY believe we would be against kicking some ***? i'd be all about it.
You're the smart guy, you tell us what you'd do. International terrorist organizations, funded by sovereign nations, to operate covertly. I guess it takes more than killing 3,000 of our own people, on our own soil, before you start playing hard ball. Im curious what soft ball approach you will inspire us with.
what i'm not about is US being the world bullies going around picking fights. what did iraq do to provoke us? or afghanistan? oh thats right, they "harbor, fund, and train terrorists, and have an EVIL government!"
World bullies? Ignorance and self righteousness are not a good combination. American citizens are placed in harm's way every day to help support foreign nations. Our touchy-feely attitude has lead to funding the rebuild of every nation we 'bully'. We police the international shipping channels to allow all nations safe passage of goods for internation trade (including India - China - Iran - everybody). Us, The United States, with our ships, our men, our money. How many Chinese ships are out there policing? How many Iranian? Not to mention the massive amount of foreign 'federal aid' we provide every single day/week/month/year. All this to provide you with goods and a market for trade, Chinese people with goods and a market for trade, all the money to keep international support... all these things we do, as a nation... and you boil it down to us being the world bullies. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
If it wasn't for us, much of the world trade system, world econimics, and yes even that precious OPEC, would grind to a halt. Does anyone thank us? Does anyone pay us? All we get is shit on by people with an axe to grind that see an opportunity to spin a positive into a negative. And ignorant ****s like yourself eat it up. Shove your 'seemingly intelligent' comment where the sun doesn't shine. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

What did Iraq do to provoke us? Are you really that stupid? How about years of failing to meet INTERNATIONAL guidelines on U.N. arms inspections? We drew many many 'lines in the sand' that Saddam willfully crossed. He crossed one too many and we took action.

The decision to invade Iraq was unilateral across politcal boundaries in this country. The majority thought it was for an iminent danger to us possibly, and to the region definitely (WMD's)... true or not, we all thought it was. Supposed intelligence stating Saddam was planning something big (nuclear), his clear refusal to follow most all the regulations the U.N. weapons inspectors placed on him, and his already shown tendency for aggression (need I mention his invasion of Kuwait? gassing thousands of his own people? etc etc?)... and you sit there f'ing clueless as to what poor little Iraq ever did to big bad United States. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

wait... thats about 3/4 of the middle east. seems like we've still got a few more countries to take over and "liberate."
Finally something we agree on. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Tell you what, they stop sending people over here to kill us on as large a scale as they can, stop funding them, training them, hiding them... and then playing the political game of pointing their fingers everywhere else... and we'll stop sending our troops over there to 'bully' them.
after that, why not just go ahead and set our sights on those ****ed chinamen, they've been actin funny for a few years. see where i'm going with this?
Yes, I see. You are trying to invalidate a real situation by posing a fictional one. If we wanted to 'hurt' China, all we'd have to do is send home all those ships we have guarding the precious shipping channels. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
The really sad part of all this is, we go through all this bullshit for pantywaist pricks just like you. Those people who think disturbing the habitat of a few Caribou in Alaska is far worse than the political and military fallout of importing so much oil from a grossly unstable region (the middle east). Yes, save the freakin caribou, screw American lives. If we dug our own **** oil wells, started building nuclear plants regularly again, and got indepedant of the middle east, our lives would be infinitely simpler. But no, we have to worry about saving the caribou, and save the wales, and save the ozone layer, and save the poor starving hungry children of the Earth. But God help us if we dont give everyone else the support they demand, in the manner they demand. Being the only 'super power' left currently, we are damned if do and damned if we dont. 'Meddle' with foreign affairs and nitwits call us bullies. Sit back and let all hell break loose, and those same nitwits would call us self-centered isolationists.

Its people like you that are exactly the reason I vote.

 
I agree with a lot of the stuff you said there, Audioholic. There are several reasons that warranted removing Hussein from power, but none of those reasons influenced the President's decision to invade (from what I can see). Let's face it, the main reason for entering into Iraq (and most wars for that matter) is financial. We want oil. Unfortunately, because of the reasons you mentioned, we have to get it from the Middle East. I completely agree that saving a few hundred Caribou isn't worth the deaths of thousands or US soldiers, but there are a lot of complications that arise from drilling in Alaska. I'm for it, but more environmental factors need to be considered than in a country where there is nothing but sand for miles around drilling sites.

I don't disagree with the decision of going into Iraq. I disagree with being lied to by my own government. I also don't agree with what is happening in Iraq. We really are making no difference. We are not making the country safer, we are not weakening the terrorist organizations. The only thing we are doing is endangering our soldiers and prolonging an inevitable civil war.

There are several key differences between the US's involvement in WWII and our present involvement in Iraq. One: we were attacked first in WWII. Yes, we had 9/11 this time around, and although Al Qaeda was probably in Iraq at the time, the attack was not orchestrated by the Iraqi government. Two: we were fighting two extremely powerful, radical, imperalistic powers. The Germans and the Japanese were literally trying to take over the world. There was simply no avoiding the War. Three: we were fighting a coventional war against a conventional enemy. The war, obviously, was winnable. In Iraq, we are facing an ever-changing enemy who is religiously motivated and will simply NOT stop fighting no matter what the consequences. The only way to stop a conflict like this is to remove the differences that are causing people to fight. Unfortunately, that means that the most likely solution will leave two of the three major involved groups in graves, in prisons, or in refugee camps.

We have been in Iraq longer than we were involved in WWII, and we really aren't any closer to victory. Considering WWII pitted us against two of the greatest military powers in history, that ought to tell you something about the possibility of success in Iraq.

And I can't remember who said it, but public opinion had absolutely NO influence on our lack of success in Vietnam (and I don't really see that it will change what happens in the Middle East either). The reason we lost is because we kept replacing our own puppet regimes through military coups, the ARVN soldiers were lazy, undisciplined, and unmotivated, we never kept ground once we gained it, and our soldiers really had nothing to fight for. The North Vietnamese were fighting for their own freedom from the opression of the wealthy French/Chinese-controlled upper class. Vietnam was a war for nationalism. Communist policy simply presented Ho Chi Minh with the easiest way to unify the country

 
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