best sq sub setup?

[nathanh 10+ year member]

i have a 12'' type x, and 2 10w6's at my disposal, but i was hearing that 8 inch subs provide better sq... sub enclosure and amps and everything are up in the air at this point.

price isn't really an object... but a few subs from different classes would be nice.

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[bonesninja 5,000+ posts]

don't listen to what you heard....use those W6's in a properly designed ported box or a nice sealed box

 

[Cali_Screw 10+ year member]

W6 for the win, W6 was made for SQ....

 

[GregU 10+ year member]

i have a 12'' type x, and 2 10w6's at my disposal, but i was hearing that 8 inch subs provide better sq... sub enclosure and amps and everything are up in the air at this point.
price isn't really an object... but a few subs from different classes would be nice.

Are you looking for a REAL pure SQ sub? Or something that's going to "hit" as well?

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

i agree, the w6 sounds great. I would go with those.

 

[GregU 10+ year member]

Subs from "other classes" that you were asking for.

SEAS

Morel

Focal

Dynaudio

IDQ

DIYMA 12

Peerless

Just a few....since price is not an issue it won't come as a shock that a couple of those listed are around or well over $1k.

EDIT: I would reccomend the IDQ ir IDMAX, though.

And you might want to look on this forum as well, for SQ setups. http://www.diymobileaudio.com

 

[Ford302Redneck 10+ year member]

opps.

 

[GregU 10+ year member]

opps.

Umm...who's ***** were those? They were NICE! But..... my g/f just happened to be walking by at the same time I was looking at this post..... it was hard to explain.....

 

[nathanh 10+ year member]

well i have sat in cars that rattle your brains apart... but you can't hear anything else... i don't see the point in having some crazy subs rattling your eye balls. granted it's nice sitting in traffic and getting a message on the way home, lol but for enjoying the music i would really like a very sound quality system that will still get loud. i have seen 3 8" dd's in a ported box that some guy said was amazing... i like tight hard hitting responsive bass... not oprah's beer shits. i want a very nice low end responce, but don't want popping up at the upper end... like 90hz. my lows in my 3 stage setup should cross at about 60 right? so i need a good sub that will get very low but push up over and still sound clean... i have heard that the new idq's are very much so a sq sub, but why so low rms? I was planning on running a 1000.1 on my sub line... that will destroy the idq's.. unless i did like 3. which a small car like my M wont fit unless they are 8's. 2 12's is the best i can do.

i was thinking about doing 2 10's with a port running out the rear deck, then i was thinking about just removing the seats and doing my back wall with 2 12's with a center port. only porting so i can hit a little lower... but that was before i started looking at the different brands that will hit 20 sealed. but i like tight, accurate bass... if it sounded amazing, it doesn't have to rattle my entire car. so as of now, my entire sub operation is up in the air.

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

do 1 UL12 and call it a day. very clean and pretty loud. If you thought the DDs were decent you should try a UL12

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

If you want a good SQ response and it to still get low. You need to run Infinate baffle either through the rear deck or through the rear seats.

IDQ's are infamous for being AMAZING IB subs.

They are great subs.

Also. Whatever your friend told you. Trust me, install is about 70 percent of getting a good SQ car. This includes the type of enclosure you choose.

The w6 is a good sub, you can run that, I would recommend running it in a sealed box, made to spec. You do not have to get 8's to be SQ. People go to IASCA finals running 15's.

I will be running 1 or 2 IDQ10v3's in .6 cubes a piece. They perform amazing, A very efficient driver.

With the fact that you already have w6's, use them. Get a box built that is to the manufacturers reccomended size and you will be happy I am sure.

I see you said you are running a 3way active front end, In that case, assuming that your midbass can reproduce under 80-90 hz well, I would cross the subs over at 65-70 and let the midbass take over from there, if your front end is 2way active, I cross my subs at 70-80 and my mids at 70-80 and up.

I wouldn't recommend doing a port firing through the rear deck you can do IB tha fires through it, but ported boxes are much less efficient at a flat response than sealed or IB.

 

[nathanh 10+ year member]

looking around and hearing great things about the idmax's... responce is 5 to 100... rms is 50 to 1000???

hits 10 hz at 97 db sealed.

or 10 hz at 99 ib...

wont ib eventually destroy this sub?

looking at the curves for the different enclosures i dont see a huge differance between the infinate baffle and the sealed... but people are saying that the subs sound significatly better with a ib setup.

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

looking around and hearing great things about the idmax's... responce is 5 to 100... rms is 50 to 1000???
hits 10 hz at 97 db sealed.

or 10 hz at 99 ib...

wont ib eventually destroy this sub?

looking at the curves for the different enclosures i dont see a huge differance between the infinate baffle and the sealed... but people are saying that the subs sound significatly better with a ib setup.

The IDMAX's are great at getting loud and sounding good.

Honestly, my knowledge is limitied but I am great at reffering this. Go over to ID's forums on http://www.imagedynamicsusa.com post in Matt's or Eric's subforum. Those guys can tell you everything you need to know about the response curves you will get from the IDmax's.

But for pure SQ, IDQ is where it's at.

 

[nathanh 10+ year member]

yeah it would be a lot easier just to do a ib throught the back seats...

do i need to seal off everything in the trunk for the ib? how imperitive is sealing everything? i have no problem stripping everything out and just getting retarded on sealing... but don't want to go rediculously overboard if it isn't needed.

 

[nathanh 10+ year member]

10's are better than 12's for sq right? or am i going to notice a difference in the idq's between the 10's and the 12's?