Lets be real here. there is a ton of talk about all the old school stuff. IMO, the PPI, Rockford, Lanzar, Soundstream, Zapco, Linear Power, earthquake, Planet Audio, Nakamichi, Orion, Coustic RS, Xtant, US Amps, ...................all kicked ***! Back in the day there was nothing to this day that compares to them, other than Zapco. Zapco has been building a fine product forever and I feel thay wont move from that stand point EVER. Now, from a pricepoint I dont think there is a better amp out there than the Sundown gear. For ultimate SQ gear the Zapco can't be beat, keep in mind I said "be beat", are there equals? Of course, better...no. I read alot in this thread and it brings back alot of memories, what I wouldn't give for a few Power 1000's for a old Skool SQ set up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/boink.gif.91933e72f927f2cefc79aff02573090c.gif:boink: