best performance 18 for spl

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

in order to increase output you need to increase displacement..

where people loose site of this is displacement itself doesn't increase loudness..

efficiency and frequency response has to be the same..

so let take for example..

2 xl 18s

93DB 1w1m 2kw with 1db of losses..

36DB is ruffly 4kw

that's 129db..

plus 25db from cabin gain which is pretty average

that's means not only do you need to double power to the single woofer just to make up for the cone area you have to double displacement with the same linearity..

so your going towns up having to drop another 2kw for losses tuned higher and have 2x the displacement..

so if you really want one woofer to do all that you might look into buying a dd z motor or something similar with a 75 mm 8 layer alum coil and spiders to handle it..

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

the t3 woofers don't impress me...

the ascendant audio mayhem is a killer daily woofer..

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Title of the thread is best for SPL. Go with the DD Z.

All the 160+ guys around here use the TSNS. They are pretty nasty, just beware of actually dealing with the company.

 

[Bettr n' Revrse 5,000+ posts]

Title of the thread is best for SPL. Go with the DD Z.
All the 160+ guys around here use the TSNS. They are pretty nasty, just beware of actually dealing with the company.

Doubt he has 3000+ to drop and I bet he is still talking daily setup not burping

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

they cost 1500

 

[playyamxz550 10+ year member]

i have no problem spending 1500$ on a woofer if it gives out the performance but im looking for something daily not just a burping sub a sub that can still bang the lows

 

[basscort2009 5,000+ posts]

the level 6 is the way to go then im telling you. best daily sub ive seen. and can take 10k daily for a few songs before it gets smelly. now with 5k it will take allllll day long

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

the level 6 is the way to go then im telling you. best daily sub ive seen. and can take 10k daily for a few songs before it gets smelly. now with 5k it will take allllll day long

Interesting, a friend of mine has broken 3 of them and he runs 5K. One I think he just burned, the other two the coil formers folded.

There is no voice coil out there that can actually take 10KW for more than a few seconds. Pics of this happening with clamp or it didn't happen.

 

[Bettr n' Revrse 5,000+ posts]

they cost 1500

DDZ's? Uhhhh the last used ones that sold went for 3000k

 

[Ryan shaw 10+ year member]

Interesting, a friend of mine has broken 3 of them and he runs 5K. One I think he just burned, the other two the coil formers folded.
There is no voice coil out there that can actually take 10KW for more than a few seconds. Pics of this happening with clamp or it didn't happen.

theres some vids of level 6's and tsns taking a wall socket for a minute or so until the breaker gives out.

you also have to remember that if you're running 10k daily to a sub, you most likely aren't giving it test tones the whole time you're driving. 10k on music is much different than 10k on tones.

 

[joshy629 10+ year member]

my xl 18 has won hands down. the lvl 5's are better but my xl was almost a whole db up from my btl n2. i broke my 1st 150 today with a single 18 in a street box at the headrest

 

[basscort2009 5,000+ posts]

yea we clamped 10k on a burp but i guess for music it was around 7-8k maybe. but either way your friend needs to lick a car battery if he blew 3 level 6s. thats user error.

 

[The_Grimy_One 10+ year member]

Not sure how much they can take, but what about a 21" warden??? He already has an Incriminator amp, and the one warden would help compensate for the loss of cone area.

 

[BlactimusCrime 10+ year member]

DDZ's? Uhhhh the last used ones that sold went for 3000k

3million? i doubt it lol

 

[Linkz 10+ year member]

Rd hw?

dealer cost of a ddz is somewhere around 3k.