You think you are smarter than everyone else. There is no user error and I can prove it with the Re sub, but you will still probably want to argue back and forth like a woman. I did direct swaps with some of my other amps and all of them outdid the ppi. My current install should quit on me any day now according to what you call logic. It has been stated many times on this forum that Re's quality is not what used to be, but I guess you missed that? I had 2 of the real Se 12s on 2000 rms. They never messed up and I pushed them to the limit. That was almost ten years ago and I've never left car audio. If I messed up the install I would admit it. I have jack to gain by trying to impress you. When I get word back from Re you'll be the first to know.