Best Buy Retards!!!!

That actually is true. The higher the percentage of ethanol equals the higher the octane. If you actually want to know why or how than let me know. My uncle is one of many actually trying to find funding for an ethanol plant.
Hmm...if so, then why do so many vehicles exhibit issues? Wouldn't E87 (if % of ethanol = level of octane) make more sense to reduce pinging and other performance issues?

 
Hmm...if so, then why do so many vehicles exhibit issues? Wouldn't E87 (if % of ethanol = level of octane) make more sense to reduce pinging and other performance issues?
this isn't correct (see below)

That is the point...to determine how much a big mac costs relative to your countries currency. Say I have $3 in my pocket, could I buy a big Mac in China? If so, how many. Althought it isn't an exact science, it does work in generalities
i agree with this but if you weren't relating this to the value of the dollar i don't understand why you mentioned it it had nothing to do with my statement, i only said that double cheesburgers used to be more expensive here in the US and now it is slightly less... if that relates to the dollar value in any way, it means its worth more

And the Chinese dump that money back into our economy when they buy our treasuries. If the Chinese do not keep our economy strong, we cannot make their economy strong. If we crash, they crash.
this year (2007 jan.- april) we have exported the equivalent of $19,323,600,000 to china, we have imported $95,647,900,000... that leaves us with a deficit of$76,324,300,000....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif :eek: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif that is an *** of money to leave the country in 4 months... if you don't believe me check the U.S. Census Bureau.

The wall did not work for China. Ever hear of the Mongols and the Huns?
lol you have been watching mulan too much... when the huns invaded china the great wall had not yet been fully constucted, at this point it was little more than a few pallisades of local communities... after the hun invasion the great wall you see today was built... the only ones successfull in getting across the wall were the manchus (northern chineas) and when they did they took over and formed a new chinease dynasty (Qing) after that mongolia was annexed into the empire, so the need for the wall was gone, so the wall did work pretty well... exept for a crooked general who opened the gates at beijing, it would've quite possibly never been invaded.... i've been there, there are parts of it i could scarcely climb along the top let alone go over it....

Why would a higher proportion of ethonol enhance octane? You do know e85 - 85% ethanol, not 85 octane
LISTEN! i didn't say E85 ment 85 octane fuel... infact E85 is about 105 octane, but ethanol (the E part of E85) is higher octane than the gas mixed with it... so less gas and more ethanol means higher octane... but higher octane doesn't mean more mileage when talking about ethanol... the reason E85 is so inefficient in flex fuel engines even with high octane is the combustion chamber required for gasoline... the engines were DESIGNED to run on gas, E85 is just an alternative... specific ethanol using motors are much more efficient and the combustion chamber is much different... plus the compression ratio for ethanol is 12:1, and that is way too high for gasoline, todays flex fuel cars are simply a compromise, they aren't as efficient but the main purpose of them is to make E85 more popular and thus more readily availible in order to push the production of MORE E85 focused engines... did you know the government gives incentives to car companies that manufact E85 compatible cars? i wonder why? because its less inefficient? people these days need to wake up and realize whats best right now isn't allways whats going to be best in the long run.

Throw yourself off a roof?
yeah thats the way it is these days, "if you don't agree with me, throw yourself off a roof"
 
Hmm...if so, then why do so many vehicles exhibit issues? Wouldn't E87 (if % of ethanol = level of octane) make more sense to reduce pinging and other performance issues?
sry i missed this one... yes E87 would make more sence, heck even pure ethanol would be great... the problem is the motor can't be made to safely and efficiently run on both gas and higher than 85% ethanol at the same time, anymore ethanol and the design for the engine requires that you can't use gasoline... keep in mind it is only a step, not a full solution.

 
its truly amazing... Its like watching 2 cripples fighting for the retard of ca.com spot
how am i retarded? i mean honesly you are calling me retarded when i have given specific and exact arguements for everything i've said, and when i have they are either debated or exepted so far in this thread nothing i've said can be said to be "100% wrong" while this little jerk thinks he take my username because of some dumb stuff i said when i was newer to car audio.... hes cool because he can threaten people over the internet... let me give you a hint V2... you have no idea who you are talking to and the ability they have to **** you up... if this were a high school fight forum i'd say i can kick everyones *** on it because people that start shit over the internet are allmost Allways full of shit and are banking on the fact that so is everyone else... but this forum isn't about fighting and exchanging addresses and shit could be like stabbing someone that will shoot you

 
cotjones

Why is nearly ever single post of yours long as shit, with horrible spelling and grammar? All you do is type in a circle and make peoples eye's bleed trying to figure out WTF you're saying.

Take a vacation or something.

 
cotjones
Why is nearly ever single post of yours long as shit, with horrible spelling and grammar? All you do is type in a circle and make peoples eye's bleed trying to figure out WTF you're saying.

Take a vacation or something.
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edit: #1! was i talking to you?... i don't care if you have something to ADD to the arguement but stop trashing me when i'm discussing something with someone... just because YOU don't understand doesn't mean he doesn't...

#2 if you don't like how i write, then don't read em or at least don't take the time to reply with stupid statements like that... i'm sry i just didn't know this was a ****ing spelling forum

 
And what in the world makes you think you know more than college-educated people? You've yet to graduate from highschool and you think you know everything worth knowing.

You may not suffer any consequences aside from flaming from your elitist, know-it-all attitude on a forum, but when you get into the real world you simply won't make it with your current state of mind. You may very well be an intelligent guy, but you fool yourself as to just how intelligent you are. Sit back, learn, ask questions. Don't try and lecture everyone about everything just because you read a wikipedia article on the topic.

 
And what in the world makes you think you know more than college-educated people? You've yet to graduate from highschool and you think you know everything worth knowing.
i haven't taken that position you seem to have taken the position that college grads know more than me??? i know plenty of ignorant college grads...
You may not suffer any consequences aside from flaming from your elitist, know-it-all attitude on a forum, but when you get into the real world you simply won't make it with your current state of mind. You may very well be an intelligent guy, but you fool yourself as to just how intelligent you are. Sit back, learn, ask questions. Don't try and lecture everyone about everything just because you read a wikipedia article on the topic.
the point is i made a completely valid arguement and if it's wrong then you would've said it was and explained why instead of commenting on my grammar and beating around the bush... you are still just looking for a way to make me look wrong when i'm not

EDIT: oh yeah and i did graduate from highschool almost a month ago

 
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edit: #1! was i talking to you?... i don't care if you have something to ADD to the arguement but stop trashing me when i'm discussing something with someone... just because YOU don't understand doesn't mean he doesn't...
It's a public forum, meaning everyone reads everything. I'm trying to implement quality control on the discussion. It's not that I don't understand the topic, its that your writing style is awful and is hard to comprehend. Imagine if a 4th grader were to write a summary for a popular novel, compared to an educated adult writing a summary. Obviously, one will make much more sense and present a much clearer picture.

#2 if you don't like how i write, then don't read em or at least don't take the time to reply with stupid statements like that... i'm sry i just didn't know this was a ****ing spelling forum
Again, quality control. It's not a spelling forum; duh. The purpose of a forum is to relay information to one another and discuss common interests. This is much more successful when you don't write on a 3rd grade level.

 
this isn't correct (see below)

i agree with this but if you weren't relating this to the value of the dollar i don't understand why you mentioned it it had nothing to do with my statement, i only said that double cheesburgers used to be more expensive here in the US and now it is slightly less... if that relates to the dollar value in any way, it means its worth more

this year (2007 jan.- april) we have exported the equivalent of $19,323,600,000 to china, we have imported $95,647,900,000... that leaves us with a deficit of$76,324,300,000....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif :eek: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif that is an *** of money to leave the country in 4 months... if you don't believe me check the U.S. Census Bureau.

lol you have been watching mulan too much... when the huns invaded china the great wall had not yet been fully constucted, at this point it was little more than a few pallisades of local communities... after the hun invasion the great wall you see today was built... the only ones successfull in getting across the wall were the manchus (northern chineas) and when they did they took over and formed a new chinease dynasty (Qing) after that mongolia was annexed into the empire, so the need for the wall was gone, so the wall did work pretty well... exept for a crooked general who opened the gates at beijing, it would've quite possibly never been invaded.... i've been there, there are parts of it i could scarcely climb along the top let alone go over it....

LISTEN! i didn't say E85 ment 85 octane fuel... infact E85 is about 105 octane, but ethanol (the E part of E85) is higher octane than the gas mixed with it... so less gas and more ethanol means higher octane... but higher octane doesn't mean more mileage when talking about ethanol... the reason E85 is so inefficient in flex fuel engines even with high octane is the combustion chamber required for gasoline... the engines were DESIGNED to run on gas, E85 is just an alternative... specific ethanol using motors are much more efficient and the combustion chamber is much different... plus the compression ratio for ethanol is 12:1, and that is way too high for gasoline, todays flex fuel cars are simply a compromise, they aren't as efficient but the main purpose of them is to make E85 more popular and thus more readily availible in order to push the production of MORE E85 focused engines... did you know the government gives incentives to car companies that manufact E85 compatible cars? i wonder why? because its less inefficient? people these days need to wake up and realize whats best right now isn't allways whats going to be best in the long run.

yeah thats the way it is these days, "if you don't agree with me, throw yourself off a roof"
It's a public forum, meaning everyone reads everything. I'm trying to implement quality control on the discussion. It's not that I don't understand the topic, its that your writing style is awful and is hard to comprehend. Imagine if a 4th grader were to write a summary for a popular novel, compared to an educated adult writing a summary. Obviously, one will make much more sense and present a much clearer picture.


Again, quality control. It's not a spelling forum; duh. The purpose of a forum is to relay information to one another and discuss common interests. This is much more successful when you don't write on a 3rd grade level.
what part of this is 3rd grade level or not understandable? you seem to be the first one to complain

 
not to change the subject but has anyone checked out the new T-pain yet:fro:
edit: i got it from best buy... lol (irony?)

not bad... better then his first cd.....

im going to go get kurupt and j wells digital smoke album.. hurd its gunna be good. cant wait for the new U.G.K. to drop!

 
last time I was at best buy, I was trying to get a warranty validated thru them for a head unit a customer of mine bought.

the cops were called and I was escorted out. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif LoL. ok, I got a little out of hand. I think Best buy is being sued by multiple states for warranty scam anyways.

 
i haven't taken that position you seem to have taken the position that college grads know more than me??? i know plenty of ignorant college grads...
It's the way you come across. Seriously; sit back, learn.

the point is i made a completely valid arguement and if it's wrong then you would've said it was and explained why instead of commenting on my grammar and beating around the bush... you are still just looking for a way to make me look wrong when i'm not

EDIT: oh yeah and i did graduate from highschool almost a month ago
Never said you were wrong; I said you try to make yourself come off as smarter than you really are, and you argue moot points with those more intelligent than yourself.

And wow, a whole month ago!

 
not bad... better then his first cd.....im going to go get kurupt and j wells digital smoke album.. hurd its gunna be good. cant wait for the new U.G.K. to drop!
yeah some of t-pains lyrics are a little corny in this cd they make you go "huh?" lol but the beats are pretty cool alot of them hit really low and on the song at the end, the bass drum is more accurate than most i've heard... i really like *******, i also got the USDA mixtape, i wouldn't recommend it, there is a few "allright" songs the best one is the "go getta" remix the rcording quality isn't top-notch either

 
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