Beginner's guide to box building

another tip-

though it is advanced if you router your box MAKE SURE THE BRAD NAILS/SCREWS ARE NOT ANYWERE NEAR WERE YOUR ROUTING. this will cost you a bit, a box, and maybe a finger.

 
i know, but if your aiming for say a 2 cubic foot box, that 3/8 all around will effect airspace. not by that much, but if you made the front piece just big enough to house a 15" sub, that 3/8" on top and bottom will add up to 3/4" and the sub may not fit in. just some insight, because it has happened before

 
Gorrila Glue and Polyester Resin will both seap into the wood making the bond a wood/glue mixture. Basically fuseing the two together. The top layre of MDF will tare deeper when you brake thoes bonds than with wood glue. Wood glue uses enzymes to brake down and then bond togather the wood particles on the surface of the wood. It is plenty strong, but I just though I would let you know that Polyester resin and Gorrilla Glue work excelent but are both extremely messy.

 
pv audio i gots a question for ya.
1. dove tailing?? is it worth it? seems like it would make a better "bond" between wood and glue.
Yes, a dovetailed joint is stronger, but at that point you are WAY past the point of dimishing returns. It isn't really worth it, and all that would change in the box is the amount of effort you have into it.

 
pv audio i gots a question for ya.
1. dove tailing?? is it worth it? seems like it would make a better "bond" between wood and glue.
No, it isn't worth it for box building. Specialty joints aren't really worth the time, but for speaker building, then yes, it's a good idea. If you want a better bond, a miter joint would work while not being too ridiculous.

 
good post man
whats the difference between the different titebond wood glues? i've been using titebond III but everyone one here has been using titebond II. any reason? i know III is a tad bit more money, and it seemed to do the trick just fine

i hope this will eliminate all the threads created every week on how to build a box

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There really isn't TOO much difference. My only deciding criteria is the ease of use for each glue. My personal favorites are Titebond II (buy it by the jug) and Elmer's ProBond. T3 is technically stronger, but it takes a decade to dry, and you won't notice the difference unless you're trying to make your enclosure explode. T1 is a good glue for smaller applications. It tends to flake easier, but dries extremely fast. I use T1 on sealed and small ported enclosures where the working time doesn't need to be very high in the first place. ProBond is just about the same as T2, but it sands SOO much easier. Whereas T2 just kinda peels away, probond literally sands off in a powder. I use it on speakers mainly, because it's harder to find around here. T2 is your overall best bet.

 
when you say miter.....what do you mean? I would like to see someone do a tongue/groove setup, wouldnt be too hard...
A miter joint is done by cutting the edges of the panels at 45 degree angles. That way, you have over 1/5 more surface area (think 45-45-90 triangle) to glue. There also isn't a way for the internal pressure to blow one of the joints apart easily because if you don't set the joint properly, it won't look right. It's an easy way to get more strength, I use it only exclusively in home audio subs though.

 
No, it isn't worth it for box building. Specialty joints aren't really worth the time, but for speaker building, then yes, it's a good idea. If you want a better bond, a miter joint would work while not being too ridiculous.
I always use miter joints on boxes I am going to paint. Not because they are stronger but because it makes finishing the box a LOT easier. Miters are easy if you take your time and think about what you are doing.

 
Miters are easy if you take your time and think about what you are doing.
I use to cut the miters when finishing up tiling on roofs, takes some getting use to, but they can look oh so sexy when done right, never even thought about that with my box though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blackeye.gif.66a1670f5aaf7f406e783a63e3387dc5.gif

 
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