Audioque 2200D vs. Kicker 08ZX2500.1

[Jeremiah25 10+ year member]

i have tested it to do 408w @ 5.39 ohms at 13.1v at the battery 100% clip free.
I know they are rated to do 700w@4ohm but also at 14.4v with 1% THD i believe?

I'm sure i could get a lot more power out of the test if i slightly went into clipping...

That's why when they come back in from repair, i have 2 of them, i am doing extensive testing and posting all the results on SSA because that's where i reside at mostly.

I'm getting well over 500 at 8 ohm reactive 100% clip free. You seriously had something jacked up with that install. I have no idea what, but to fry two amps, have all these problems, and not be able to get any power out of them "should" indicate that to you. I know that's what it's tellin me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[808skindiver 10+ year member]

hmm i must have my sub wired wrong then. does anyone have any wiring diagrams for a dual 2 ohm sub? thanks

oh btw the sub is an axis 15 dual 2 ohm.

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

I'm getting well over 500 at 8 ohm reactive 100% clip free. You seriously had something jacked up with that install. I have no idea what, but to fry two amps, have all these problems, and not be able to get any power out of them "should" indicate that to you. I know that's what it's tellin me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

You must have never read the posts i had made about the progress of the situation.

The repair center never new the root cause of the problem but it fried in their possession twice, kinda hard to be my fault when i didnt even have them.

and not all amps are made perfectly alike, the one i had may had been slightly less powerful then yours. That's why other companies tend to give birthsheets.

I also have sundown amp in my car and never gave me problems.

 

[Jeremiah25 10+ year member]

The repair center never new the root cause of the problem but it fried in their possession twice, kinda hard to be my fault when i didnt even have them.

It could have definately been your fault......why were they at the repair center in the first place? As you stated they never found the root cause of the problem, so it's no suprise that they toasted them while trying to repair them. I know you are trying to make this out like it was no fault of your own, but honestly I don't think most people are going to buy it. It's just too hard to believe that you got 2 junk amps, when no one else has.

and not all amps are made perfectly alike, the one i had may had been slightly less powerful then yours. That's why other companies tend to give birthsheets.

I also have sundown amp in my car and never gave me problems.

Slightly less powerful //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif 500 watts at 8 ohms -vs- 400 watts at 4 ohms is no slight difference. You have more sense than that Shizzzon. I'm sure you also know that most birthsheets are total BS. Just randomly generated numbers to make the customer think they got alot more power than they payed for.

As far as the sundown amp goes, I'm glad it's working well for you. I don't doubt your ability to install an amp. It's not rocket science. However I believe you had a problem. Maybe you strapped them wrong.....maybe you had a ground problem.....who knows. The only thing I can really tell you is that it seems far more likely that you had an install issue than an amp quality issue.

 

[Anonymous 10+ year member]

You test that with a DMM?

Yes I did test both of my AQ 2200's with a DMM, clamp meter, and o-scope. They both do over 2200 RMS. I was not just saying that because I think they put out more. How the hell would I be able to tell?

 

[shizzzon 10+ year member]

We already went through this whole "speculation" scenario...

There is nothing wrong with my install.

I had to prove that... more than once.

Only the slave amp had went out, not both.

The repair center fried the master amp, i didnt, they just wanted it to make sure it wasnt damaged. Rca connector broke off inside the slave amp while they had em strapped and killed em both. I couldnt have done that... Why? because the slave amp never worked for me in the first place so i had no play time with messin with the rcas to begin with.

Before that, a toroid shorted out... that's impossible for me to do that unless it suffered from massive vibrations but again, i never had a chance to install it so again, not my fault.

I've been over this plenty of times. It was an odd scenario but Audioque has 100% took care of me and this problem so it's a past story now.

It was also metered at 5.39 ohms, not 4, voltage lower than 14.4, so far below 4 ohms at 14.4v. The sine wave wasnt even at full amplitude on the o-scope when did that quick test anyway, it was close but not at full non-clipped potential, it probably had like half a click gain wise before it would max out the wave before clipping so close enough.

IT was sent in the first time due to an unknown signal issue... A signal was not passing through the amps when they were strapped and ended up frying the slave amp.... but when just the master amp was connected, it worked fine...

Hence... i believe the rca connector issue was at fault at that time, just not completely broken off yet.

But again ,the repair center doesnt know the root cause, it's history now, they are coming back next week. There never was a ground issue, both amps read same voltage at the amp's terminals... i just got 2 amps at the wrong time.

 

[MasterOfAllBass 10+ year member]

BTW, the Kicker amp will also do rated power and then some. It is a very strong amp. Either way I don't think you could go wrong. I personally would save myself some money and run the AQ though.

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