ATTN: Computer people

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

DO NOT BUY FROM TIGERDIRECT

I use to work for them they sell b stock merchandise. I use to get a return attempts on 3 of every 5 barebones or computer systems I sold cause they had defective parts, and I say return attempts because it is almost impossible to get a money back return they make you warranty it and spend yur own cash to ship it.

use newegg.com

totally agree!

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

case: $50PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103512

Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130491

RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227031

Proc http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103533

Video http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814127176

HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148065

Dual Layer DVD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152047

That all comes out to around $900, then youve got $300 for a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers.

Gracias senorita.

A buddy mentioned a site that he got everythign from- it was like zipzapsomethingsomething.com or something like that lol...

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

http://www.ZipZoomFly.com (used to be googlegear.com)

NewEgg.com is better, but ZZF is good.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103440

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130491

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227039

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103533

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127153

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148021

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152047

How about that?

Worked out to $640.

 

[ruckus]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103440http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130491

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227039

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103533

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127153

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148021

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152047

How about that?

Worked out to $640.

lol hope you aint waiting on moe to answer you after calling him a woman in your thank you LMAO

looking at your choices I take it you have no desire to play video games, or record cds or dvds? cause your video card choice is a baseline videocard that wont even play most new games and you chose a dvd player instead of a recorder. other than that it looks fine //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

lol hope you aint waiting on moe to answer you after calling him a woman in your thank you LMAO

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[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

MUCH better PSU with totally stable V rails (especially for the money -- plus some bonus bling) and full aluminum housing (used to be Allied AL-B500-E, with absolutely top-reviews everywhere):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817154015

moboard: Good, but ASUS would be better

Geil, Mushkin, Corsair would be a good choice on RAM, although OCZ is fine.

Proc': good

Vid: You really should do a Radeon 9600XT / Geforce 6600GT or better. Less won't hold up much longer (games)

Drive: good -- fairly cool and very quiet running. Maxtor 16 MB cache new 350 GB+ models are better bang for buck.

DVD: excellent. Very fast and 2nd only to Plextor's comperable model. Dual-layer media is still so expensive for what it's worth, by the time you really need it, the media will be cheap too. DVD Shrink makes excellent use of single-layer media //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Don't forget a case. My favorite one so far and my main machine runs the Antec P-160, but there are a ton out there, in that level.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

The cases on NewEgg's site come with power supplies...should I still get a different one and use that instead? Any cases that you could point out that are good?

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

The cases on NewEgg's site come with power supplies...should I still get a different one and use that instead? Any cases that you could point out that are good?

Many of the good ones don't. And if they do, ebay it. Unless the case costs you several hundred bux, the included PSU is crap. "Watts" doesn't mean anything if it can't hold a stable rail voltage under load. There are some spectacular PSU's out there that are ready for overclocking craziness, and huge GPU and drive loads, but they usually end up costing huge bux.

The Allied AL-B500-E PSU is a rare PSU near $50 that can handle serious overclocking beautifully. Plus, the machined aluminum housing, dual quiet fans, bling lights, excellent construction and parts... It should cost near twice as much as it does, so enjoy, before they figure it out. Many other hardcore overclockers and I have, since they hit the USA about a year ago.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

So is picking a case not too important since I'm going to be using that PSU anyway?

BTW, thanks for the help

 

[Moe Lester 10+ year member]

MUCH better PSU with totally stable V rails (especially for the money -- plus some bonus bling) and full aluminum housing (used to be Allied AL-B500-E, with absolutely top-reviews everywhere):http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817154015

moboard: Good, but ASUS would be better

Geil, Mushkin, Corsair would be a good choice on RAM, although OCZ is fine.

Proc': good

Vid: You really should do a Radeon 9600XT / Geforce 6600GT or better. Less won't hold up much longer (games)

Drive: good -- fairly cool and very quiet running. Maxtor 16 MB cache new 350 GB+ models are better bang for buck.

DVD: excellent. Very fast and 2nd only to Plextor's comperable model. Dual-layer media is still so expensive for what it's worth, by the time you really need it, the media will be cheap too. DVD Shrink makes excellent use of single-layer media //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Don't forget a case. My favorite one so far and my main machine runs the Antec P-160, but there are a ton out there, in that level.

With only 20A on that power supply's 12v rail it isnt nearly qualified to run a decent Nforce 4 based system.

Id stay clear of the 9600XT. The 9800 pro is still faster than a 9600xt and yet a 6600GT will beat the 9800 pro and supports pixel shader 3.

edit: Probably the best bang for your buck video card that will perform great right now and wont be outdated for quite a while is i believe the 6800. Youve got a chance of being able to unlock the extra 4 pixel pipelines and the other shaders. You can then further overclock it and youll basically have a 6800GT for around $180

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

With only 20A on that power supply's 12v rail it isnt nearly qualified to run a decent Nforce 4 based system.

20A "rated" is as good or better than about any high-end PSU more than twice the price, plus, this PSU actually does it, on the bench, and isn't all about over-rating.

I'm personally interested in seeing more examples of PSU's out there that rate higher than 20A on the 12V. I know of a couple nice/expensive ones.

 

[Moe Lester 10+ year member]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=17-103-444&depa=0 Dual 12v rails totaling 27A, newegg has the specs listed wrong.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103927 Dual 12v rails totaling 32A

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817171001 Dual 12v totaling 34A

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103440 33A 12v

Those are all low priced ones, if you want me to list ones that cost a bit more ill do it. Theres TONS of power supplies out that put out the current. If you are running a dual video card SLI system, nvidia pretty much requires 33A minimum on the 12v rail.

A PC Power and Cooling 850 would be badass, but whos got $450 to drop on a PSU. OCZ's Powerstream series are excellent and the rails are all regulated within 2%. PCP & C are all regulated within

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Moe- what do you think about the system that I put together soem posts up?

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

I wouldn't go the 370 or 380W units, but the CM 450 is a truly nice PSU.

Ya mon, that PC Power and Cooling PSU is awesome stuff, probably what many SLI runners would go for. I don't think this system will ever hit SLI though. Will it?

Good post Moe