attn: audiomobile supporters...

He cant sell that much ive only seen two people around here with them ones my Cuz'n and Co woker. I go to Comps and no there as any and he dosent go to the CES and i go amost every year. Going this year for sure January 9-13 Las Vegas.

 
I think I might be alright with Audiomobile if Matt wasnt such a num-nut....

I want to pick up a 12" Evo-R and see what its like...but I would much rather take my $300 elsewhere.

 
K --

quote:

"I just go there and read what people are fighting about. There funny overthere they love there evo-r "BEST **** WOOFER THEY EVER OWNED" guess they havent owned much."

____________________________________________

Shall we consider a few facts?

First of all, the MASS 2000 series has been verified (for over 2 YEARS) at over 25 mm Xmag / Xmax. This is far more then the original proto was tested at (19.1 mm). Any one who has missed that fact (for the past couple of years is clearly not paying attention).

Second, the report on the EVO-R 12 shows a Xmag (linear excursion envelope) of 25 mm (this is within a 10% production tolerance, which all subs will typically exhibit, not to mention the degree of variance inherent in DUMAX tests).

The Xsus on the driver shows 26 mm travel in the positive direction, however the rearward travel, apparently did not perform in a normal fashion, thus the Xsus and so the XMAX did not meet spec. This is likely due to problem or defect with one of the spiders (there can be problems with individual parts on occassions).

In addition, the new Mobiel Ent review on the EVO-R 15 (which uses the same VC and suspension, was DUMAX tested and validated to have 28 mm of both Xmag (linear travel) and Xsus (linear suspension travel). So we are not concerned about the accuracy of our specs (that's why we have them independently tested and verified).

And compared to the recent test on the JL 12 W7, even though the EVO-R was tested in a mere 1.5' box, it still SMASHED the SPL records for Mobile Ent (set by the W7), by 1.5 - 3 dB (both in low-distortion w/ test tones) and in peak SPL output.

So it is clear that this feat could not be accomplished without a linear excursion capability (XMAX) comparable to that of the JL 12W7 (around 26 mm).

Now while some will continue to argue with the facts and data (which says a ton about them), the facts remain that same car/amp "real-world" testing is the definitive way to measure what a given product can do.

And given a ruler flat (1.8 dB) in-car frequency response (better then the W7 or the ID MAX), and record-shattering SPL (with low-distortion), in a 1.5' sealed box (more typical for a 12" sub vs. a 15"), not to mention the rave comments from one of the worlds low-frequency (both for Home and car) authorities (Tom Nousaine), once again proves that Audiomobile products are deliver 'World-Class' performance and value...

This now makes for a rather remarkable 3-years and a "Three-peat" for Audiomobile products (in Mobile Entertainment).

2000 MASS 2012 -- 'the BEST' 12-inch sub ever tested

2001 EVO 2210 -- 'the BEST' 10-inch sub ever tested

2002 EVO-R 2315 -- 'The BEST' 15" sub (and loudest by a wide margin) ever tested (despite costing less then HALF the 12 W7).

Three series, three different size units and three stellar reviews (not to mention the other rave reviews on the MASS and EVO-R in CAE).

Obviously this unprecedented portfolio of reviews makes our case pretty compelling, and we are content to let the expert reviewers make our case to the marketplace...

And no amount of talking trash, by a handful of individuals) about our company, products or my efforts to defend our company and products (in the face of repeated bogus and inane accusations directed at us) will change the fact that the performance of our products clearly speak for themselves, but they cannot defend themselves against unprovoked attacks...

Matt

http://www.AudiomobileDirect.com

 
It's not a matter of your products and there specifications. I could careless about them honestly. It's your attitude on this and all the other car audio forums. I was very seriously considering purchasing audiomobile drivers last year when I redid my comp truck. After checking out the different forums around the net. And seeing your postings. It was you personally, and the way you act towards others that doubt your products and your toutings about them. That turned me away from them. I know I am only one person. But there are lot's of people who read this and the other forums daily //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
Originally posted by Matt Overpeck K --

 

quote:

 

"I just go there and read what people are fighting about. There funny overthere they love there evo-r "BEST **** WOOFER THEY EVER OWNED" guess they havent owned much."

____________________________________________

 

Shall we consider a few facts?

 

First of all, the MASS 2000 series has been verified (for over 2 YEARS) at over 25 mm Xmag / Xmax. This is far more then the original proto was tested at (19.1 mm). Any one who has missed that fact (for the past couple of years is clearly not paying attention).

 

Second, the report on the EVO-R 12 shows a Xmag (linear excursion envelope) of 25 mm (this is within a 10% production tolerance, which all subs will typically exhibit, not to mention the degree of variance inherent in DUMAX tests).

 

The Xsus on the driver shows 26 mm travel in the positive direction, however the rearward travel, apparently did not perform in a normal fashion, thus the Xsus and so the XMAX did not meet spec. This is likely due to problem or defect with one of the spiders (there can be problems with individual parts on occassions).

 

In addition, the new Mobiel Ent review on the EVO-R 15 (which uses the same VC and suspension, was DUMAX tested and validated to have 28 mm of both Xmag (linear travel) and Xsus (linear suspension travel). So we are not concerned about the accuracy of our specs (that's why we have them independently tested and verified).

 

And compared to the recent test on the JL 12 W7, even though the EVO-R was tested in a mere 1.5' box, it still SMASHED the SPL records for Mobile Ent (set by the W7), by 1.5 - 3 dB (both in low-distortion w/ test tones) and in peak SPL output.

 

So it is clear that this feat could not be accomplished without a linear excursion capability (XMAX) comparable to that of the JL 12W7 (around 26 mm).

 

Now while some will continue to argue with the facts and data (which says a ton about them), the facts remain that same car/amp "real-world" testing is the definitive way to measure what a given product can do.

 

And given a ruler flat (1.8 dB) in-car frequency response (better then the W7 or the ID MAX), and record-shattering SPL (with low-distortion), in a 1.5' sealed box (more typical for a 12" sub vs. a 15"), not to mention the rave comments from one of the worlds low-frequency (both for Home and car) authorities (Tom Nousaine), once again proves that Audiomobile products are deliver 'World-Class' performance and value...

 

This now makes for a rather remarkable 3-years and a "Three-peat" for Audiomobile products (in Mobile Entertainment).

 

2000 MASS 2012 -- 'the BEST' 12-inch sub ever tested

 

2001 EVO 2210 -- 'the BEST' 10-inch sub ever tested

 

2002 EVO-R 2315 -- 'The BEST' 15" sub (and loudest by a wide margin) ever tested (despite costing less then HALF the 12 W7).

 

Three series, three different size units and three stellar reviews (not to mention the other rave reviews on the MASS and EVO-R in CAE).

 

Obviously this unprecedented portfolio of reviews makes our case pretty compelling, and we are content to let the expert reviewers make our case to the marketplace...

 

And no amount of talking trash, by a handful of individuals) about our company, products or my efforts to defend our company and products (in the face of repeated bogus and inane accusations directed at us) will change the fact that the performance of our products clearly speak for themselves, but they cannot defend themselves against unprovoked attacks...

 

Matt

 

http://www.AudiomobileDirect.com
I'm sorry Matt, but all your bullshit specs don't impress me. Not a bit, no sir. You show me some SPL records, Sq records or even numbers over 160, verified, and I'll be impressed. I'm taliking the real driver here, not some factory replaced motor shit. Then we will start from there...but, nobody on ths forum will be buying your products until you can do so...once again you fail to see the point. Xmax is not shit without the numbers to back it up...you don't believe me, check out the RFL.
 
Originally posted by Matt Overpeck K --

 

quote:

 

"I just go there and read what people are fighting about. There funny overthere they love there evo-r "BEST **** WOOFER THEY EVER OWNED" guess they havent owned much."

____________________________________________

 

Shall we consider a few facts?

 

First of all, the MASS 2000 series has been verified (for over 2 YEARS) at over 25 mm Xmag / Xmax. This is far more then the original proto was tested at (19.1 mm). Any one who has missed that fact (for the past couple of years is clearly not paying attention).

 

Second, the report on the EVO-R 12 shows a Xmag (linear excursion envelope) of 25 mm (this is within a 10% production tolerance, which all subs will typically exhibit, not to mention the degree of variance inherent in DUMAX tests).

 

The Xsus on the driver shows 26 mm travel in the positive direction, however the rearward travel, apparently did not perform in a normal fashion, thus the Xsus and so the XMAX did not meet spec. This is likely due to problem or defect with one of the spiders (there can be problems with individual parts on occassions).

 

In addition, the new Mobiel Ent review on the EVO-R 15 (which uses the same VC and suspension, was DUMAX tested and validated to have 28 mm of both Xmag (linear travel) and Xsus (linear suspension travel). So we are not concerned about the accuracy of our specs (that's why we have them independently tested and verified).

 

And compared to the recent test on the JL 12 W7, even though the EVO-R was tested in a mere 1.5' box, it still SMASHED the SPL records for Mobile Ent (set by the W7), by 1.5 - 3 dB (both in low-distortion w/ test tones) and in peak SPL output.

 

So it is clear that this feat could not be accomplished without a linear excursion capability (XMAX) comparable to that of the JL 12W7 (around 26 mm).

 

Now while some will continue to argue with the facts and data (which says a ton about them), the facts remain that same car/amp "real-world" testing is the definitive way to measure what a given product can do.

 

And given a ruler flat (1.8 dB) in-car frequency response (better then the W7 or the ID MAX), and record-shattering SPL (with low-distortion), in a 1.5' sealed box (more typical for a 12" sub vs. a 15"), not to mention the rave comments from one of the worlds low-frequency (both for Home and car) authorities (Tom Nousaine), once again proves that Audiomobile products are deliver 'World-Class' performance and value...

 

This now makes for a rather remarkable 3-years and a "Three-peat" for Audiomobile products (in Mobile Entertainment).

 

2000 MASS 2012 -- 'the BEST' 12-inch sub ever tested

 

2001 EVO 2210 -- 'the BEST' 10-inch sub ever tested

 

2002 EVO-R 2315 -- 'The BEST' 15" sub (and loudest by a wide margin) ever tested (despite costing less then HALF the 12 W7).

 

Three series, three different size units and three stellar reviews (not to mention the other rave reviews on the MASS and EVO-R in CAE).

 

Obviously this unprecedented portfolio of reviews makes our case pretty compelling, and we are content to let the expert reviewers make our case to the marketplace...

 

And no amount of talking trash, by a handful of individuals) about our company, products or my efforts to defend our company and products (in the face of repeated bogus and inane accusations directed at us) will change the fact that the performance of our products clearly speak for themselves, but they cannot defend themselves against unprovoked attacks...

 

Matt

 

http://www.AudiomobileDirect.com
YOU PAY THESE PEOPLE TO ADVERTISE IN THEIR MAGAZINES!!!!!!!!

according to dictionary.com:

in·de·pen·dent Pronunciation Key (nd-pndnt)

adj.

-Not governed by a foreign power; self-governing.

-Free from the influence, guidance, or control of another or others; self-reliant: an independent mind.

-Not determined or influenced by someone or something else THAT INCLUDES ADVERTISING MONEY!!!!!!!!!!

not only this, but the fact that you didnt know one of your drivers was gonna be dumaxed makes it NOT-biased. who says that you didnt hand pick the ones you sent to DLC?

eric:banghead:

 
Matt's specs seem to be "EXAGERATTED" and even if they are "REAL" they sure as hell aint winning anyone any competitions or neither is anyone impressed with them if they owned them. What does this equal?

****@ss product + ****@ss owner = ****@ss company

 
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