Attn: All PG RSD owners.

[ronjon228 10+ year member]

I have to go with the flow on this one. I was running 50w RMS. Now I'm running my amp bridged (4-channel) at an unknown actual wattage, most likely close to, if not surpassing, 150w RMS to each side. They sound MUCH better like this and I'll be keeping it this way. Zero distortion with the amp gain at approx 1/3 of the way up. Then again, my source unit is a PC, so no idea what the output voltage of the RCA (sound card) is. Most likely lower, hence the low gain setting.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

Threw my rsd mids in to replace my revs and try them out. Have them running off a JL 300/4 that's rated at 75watts X 4 @ 4ohms at 12 volts I believe. I've seen reviews saying they put out more like 96watts @ 4 ohms.
I don't see how you could be sending a true 150watts to these. When I tried to turn the gain up they sounded kind of distorted. It could be the amp but I don't think it's clipping because I just had the revs on it and they sounded fine.

Trying to figure out what's going on here because they aren't sounding that great.

where are they crossed and at what slope? any boosts in the EQ anywhere?

if i play good recordings i can seriously turn the volume up as much as i want and they sound fine and show no signs of stress.

 

[ronjon228 10+ year member]

Sounds like the x-over is set too low, or the slope isn't sleep enough. Most likely distortion caused by low end Hz and not the actual power being sent to them. As tc said, what's your xover and slope?

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

the whole thing with running so much power is you get crazy dynamics that way. it's sick when you can feel the snare drum hits, not just bass drum and floor toms. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. yes with more power you can get louder but for me it's about loudness and SQ and dynamics.

i think a lot of power is just as important in an SQ system as it is in an spl system. only in an SQ system you won't be using all of it all the time. alot of it is there for headroom and good dynamic range.

 

[DeboDaddy 10+ year member]

Hey tc, I'm switching to active on my RSD's in the enxt few weeks. I'm going to be running 2 seperate amps though. I was wondering how much power do you have going to the mids, and same question for the tweets? One more thing, do you usually put less power to the tweets, or is it just all dependent on personal preferences?

Thanks for any help.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

well my amp can do 200 per mid and 100 per tweeter. i didn't set the gains with a dmm or anything. just set them by ear. ya never know how much power anything is actually seeing. when you get into an active setup using a dmm to set gains is kind of pointless, you just need to level match everything so it blends right. but tweeters usually don't need anywhere near as much as mids, hence the reason i bought an amp with staggered outputs.

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

I have the HPF on 60hz and LPF on 3kz, 12db slope. Is the LPF too high? What are you guys crossing your mids and tweets at?

 

[CaptNKILL 10+ year member]

Man, someone told me to go with a kicker ZX200.2 amp to power the RSD 6.5s but its only 70x2 at 4 ohms. I hope that's enough to make them sound good. I have the amp but I don't have the speakers yet (ebay seller is taking his sweet old time with responding to my questions).

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

I have the HPF on 60hz and LPF on 3kz, 12db slope. Is the LPF too high? What are you guys crossing your mids and tweets at?

you are running yours active?

my mids are run from 80hz/12db up to 2.5k/24db. tweets are at 4k/24db.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

Man, someone told me to go with a kicker ZX200.2 amp to power the RSD 6.5s but its only 70x2 at 4 ohms. I hope that's enough to make them sound good. I have the amp but I don't have the speakers yet (ebay seller is taking his sweet old time with responding to my questions).

they will work on 70 watts a side but will sound a bunch better with more.

 

[CaptNKILL 10+ year member]

they will work on 70 watts a side but will sound a bunch better with more.

I don't have a whole lot of experience with stuff like this. What is it that sounds better with more power? Is it the mid bass?

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

I don't have a whole lot of experience with stuff like this. What is it that sounds better with more power? Is it the mid bass?

more power = less distortion (to an extent)

you will be able to have it louder while sounding clearer..... possibly much clearer.

 

[BobbyDD 10+ year member]

I don't have a whole lot of experience with stuff like this. What is it that sounds better with more power? Is it the mid bass?

Have you ever had a set of components before? If you haven't then you'll probably be satisfied with 70 watts per side.

 

[CaptNKILL 10+ year member]

Have you ever had a set of components before? If you haven't then you'll probably be satisfied with 70 watts per side.

Never had components before. I've been using the stock speakers in my car for 2 months. In my old car I used the horrid stock speakers for almost 3 years. I upgraded to a pair of Pioneer 4x6s in the front dash and Infinity reference 6x9s in the rear. They sounded decent to me, but pretty harsh at times. I've always just used the head unit to power speakers though (22w per channel).

I listen to music fairly loud, but if I never usually go past 26 on my head unit (it goes to 35) running stock speakers, I doubt I'll be cranking it up too much more with 3 times as much power available.

 

[tsenfw 10+ year member]

more power = less distortion (to an extent)
you will be able to have it louder while sounding clearer..... possibly much clearer.

I don't see how that is possible. If that were true you would have distortion at lower volume. Think about it, you speakers are seeing less wattage with a lower volume setting.

you are running yours active?
my mids are run from 80hz/12db up to 2.5k/24db. tweets are at 4k/24db.

Yes, I'm running them active on a JL 300/4. Looking for a 9887 for better control of the crossovers.

Hmm maybe my HPF at 60hz is too low. They seem to sound better after a few days of playing but in my opinion the Pioneer rev's have slightly better sq.