Attn: All PG RSD owners.

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

I'm running passive with about 120 rms.
Maybe I'll adjust some settings and see what happens.

ohhhh, give them more, lots more! you know what i'm runnin on mine, right?

 

[Firmbiz94 10+ year member]

the rsd's are a good all around set..especially the midbass..the tweeter to me wasnt amazing but thats just imo.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

Yea, I'm on a 24db slow right now. Seems like they can go down much lower than my 5000cs (110Hz on those). I've only just put them in, so some tweaking will be needed. Also, I still have to set up my tweeters in the position I end up feeling "good about them". I'm going to try some various locations and see what I think. Once I figure that out, I'll be better off.
For now I'm going to shoot for 70-80Hz. Hopefully with the 24db slope 70 will be attainable. If not, I'll try the 12db 80Hz setup your on right now. Still very impressed with these speakers for the price.

Also, what cut off are you using for your sub? Right now I'm running my sub frequency right up to the RSD's cut off. So in other words, if my RSD's are 80Hz 24db slope HP, my subs are 80Hz 24db slope LP. Any thoughts on that based on your experience with these? I'm running only the RSD tweeters, RSD drivers, and subs. No other speakers in the mix.

Also, tc, check out my thread. I made a thread for compiling data on what frequency range people are using for their component/midrange/midbass drivers. You should add your data to that. I think it will help people trying to decide a base line of frequency response for a given product or speaker size.

try a small gap in between the mids and the sub with a shallower slope, right now i am at 63hz/12db on the sub and 80hz/12db on the mids.

i think it blends better that way, at least in my car.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

the rsd's are a good all around set..especially the midbass..the tweeter to me wasnt amazing but thats just imo.

where were the tweeters mounted? how much power, what kind of EQing did you try?

 

[Firmbiz94 10+ year member]

thats the thing..they are equalized by nothing..they are in my kicks just like yours....kind of just hpf on the amp and let the crossover do the rest...i replaced my tweets..still have the mids tho and they still take all 150 watts i give em..im working on getting a new deck and eq..but for the time being i will have to accept them the way they are....

 

[ncpalafox 10+ year member]

where are you guys ordering these from? Audiosavings on ebay doesnt have them listed anymore in 6.5" components

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

thats the thing..they are equalized by nothing..they are in my kicks just like yours....kind of just hpf on the amp and let the crossover do the rest...i replaced my tweets..still have the mids tho and they still take all 150 watts i give em..im working on getting a new deck and eq..but for the time being i will have to accept them the way they are....

hmmm, maybe you just have some peaks in your car that you need and EQ to help fix, but i really like the rsd tweets. i think they sound very detailed but never harsh and i have them on-axis as well. which would make them seem even more detailed and possibly more harsh.

but its all personal preference.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[ronjon228 10+ year member]

try a small gap in between the mids and the sub with a shallower slope, right now i am at 63hz/12db on the sub and 80hz/12db on the mids.
i think it blends better that way, at least in my car.

Will do. I'll let you know how that sounds.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

Will do. I'll let you know how that sounds.

ok

are you runnin yours active as well?

 

[Bipolar 10+ year member]

So do I keep my Kicker 6X9's KS693's or not..Well actually I have to have some 6.5's for my fron no matter what so I guess I will get the RSD's and if I like them enough I will sell my Kickers and get a pair for the rear too....

 

[ronjon228 10+ year member]

So do I keep my Kicker 6X9's KS693's or not..Well actually I have to have some 6.5's for my fron no matter what so I guess I will get the RSD's and if I like them enough I will sell my Kickers and get a pair for the rear too....

Go with the RSD's and drop the rear fill all together. Trust me, once it's gone, you'll never miss it. The RSD's will be more than enough to get the music loud and clear.

ok are you runnin yours active as well?

Yeah, running active to the component set (with my PC's DSP) and then still using the passive crossovers for the tweets. I'm going to use the passives for the tweets for a while just to get a feel for the "baseline" sound. Then I'll be putting 50x2 to the tweets and 125x2 to the comps.

I've already got my time alignment and driver balance (attenuation) all set up good. Now I just need to get the low end active tuning, between the sub and drivers, all squared away. After I do this, I'll start on the high end. This will consist of first and foremost, deciding were exactly to mount my tweets and actively crossing them over. I like to do things in steps or I get too far ahead of myself and end up getting frustrated.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

i'm confused. what are you doing with the tweeters? you have it active and passive? ya lost me.

 

[ronjon228 10+ year member]

Here's the rundown.

My source unit is a computer. I'm using an SB Live sound card for my audio output. The drivers I'm using for the sound card give me a full range DSP to work with, with 150 different plug-ins.

Right now here's how it's set up:

FXBus (all sound generated by computer) ----> 10 band EQ ----> 4th order crossover @ ~75Hz

From the 4th order crossover I have two different paths of audio as follows:

4th order crossover ~75Hz HP output ----> time alignment ----> front analog output

4th order crossover ~75Hz LP output ----> stereo volume (for sub volume control) ----> rear analog output

The front analog output of my sound card goes to my Visonik channels 1 and 2 and then out to the component set (amp is set on full range). Then my component set is using the passive crossover for now.

The rear analog output goes to channels 3 and 4 on the Visonik amp and then to my 2 subs. This is also set up with full range on the amp.

Therefore, yes, I am mixing active and passive. For now. I want to get an idea of what the RSD's are sounding like with the included passive crossovers to get an idea of what the baseline sound is supposed to be. In the mean time, I want to get all of my low end active tuning done. Then, once I get all the low end done, I can focus wholly on the high end. I need to do it in steps because a) I'm new to active, and b) I get way ahead of myself and frustrated if I'm trying to do too many things at once.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

so thats not really active then. if you have the woofers and tweeters still hooked up to the passives then it's still passive.

unless i still don't understand.

 

[ronjon228 10+ year member]

It's active, but only the sub woofer and component set (as a whole) are being handled actively.

The discrete driver and tweeter interchange is still being run passively for the time being.

It's not 100% active, but there is still active components. The only thing keeping it from being 100% active is me running my tweeters off a dedicated amp INSTEAD of the included crossovers.

Understand now?