Are capacitors worth it.

[Pioneer~Saturn 5,000+ posts]

I think u missed the part about caps storing "base energy"...dear lord I cant even laugh at that...that was impressively bad..

 

[BoxdGM 10+ year member]

i never said sht about 8 db louder, but with all bass and loud settings zerod out or off and sub maxed out i needed less gain using the dual compared to the 60x4 pioneer, but thats from preout voltage. the subs didnt get phyically louder but it seemed to take less effort to get to 59.2v for 700w, even though i think they both have 4v preouts

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Shush. Learn about shit before you talk.
While I doubt a dual deck will make subs louder, but HU do have a role.

If I have my gains set with an alpine deck that has 2.5v preouts, then switch to a deck with 5v preouts, technically the subs will be louder.

So **** off n00b. What do you think a line out converter does?

it wont be louder if you adjust the gains accordingly

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

If your running a cheap over rated amp with stock electrical wiring under the hood, then a cap will not help you.

-First you need a decent amp.

-That amp needs a heavey power cable from the battery.

-That battery needs to be able to deliver the needed current (one or more good audio type deep cycle batteries).

-The wiring under the hood needs to be upgraded to supply this extra current, 4 or 0 gauge Big3 rewire (read the sticky at the top of the Electrical issues forum).

-You need an alternator that can supply all this power and charge this system without voltage dips.

IF you have done all these things, then a capacitor can help to smooth out some small voltage dips, but really shouldn't be needed if you did everything else correctly. If you have not done all of the above, then caps are pointless.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

If your running a cheap over rated amp with stock electrical wiring under the hood, then a cap will not help you.
-First you need a decent amp.

-That amp needs a heavey power cable from the battery.

-That battery needs to be able to deliver the needed current (one or more good audio type deep cycle batteries).

-The wiring under the hood needs to be upgraded to supply this extra current, 4 or 0 gauge Big3 rewire (read the sticky at the top of the Electrical issues forum).

-You need an alternator that can supply all this power and charge this system without voltage dips.

IF you have done all these things, then a capacitor can help to smooth out some small voltage dips, but really shouldn't be needed if you did everything else correctly. If you have not done all of the above, then caps are pointless.

STFU

caps are always pointless.

Ive said this time and time again. Only time you use them is for crossovers and inside amps lol.

Caps lead in voltage but lag in current. That means it may show your voltage is dipping less but it is because your amp is getting less juice and making less power. We tested this in real world by removing a cap and gaining in NUMEROUS spl vehicles.

it may even out voltage spikes, but only at the cost of the amps you paid your $$ for.

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

Shush. Learn about shit before you talk.
While I doubt a dual deck will make subs louder, but HU do have a role.

If I have my gains set with an alpine deck that has 2.5v preouts, then switch to a deck with 5v preouts, technically the subs will be louder.

So **** off n00b. What do you think a line out converter does?

thats why you set yours gain accordingly.... dumbass

you said your new deck made your subs louder. go back and re read your post before opening your mouth

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

i never said sht about 8 db louder, but with all bass and loud settings zerod out or off and sub maxed out i needed less gain using the dual compared to the 60x4 pioneer, but thats from preout voltage. the subs didnt get phyically louder but it seemed to take less effort to get to 59.2v for 700w, even though i think they both have 4v preouts

well the 8db was me being excessive, but thats why your gain comes with knobs, to adjust it accordingly to your volt out

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

STFU
caps are always pointless.

Ive said this time and time again. Only time you use them is for crossovers and inside amps lol.

Caps lead in voltage but lag in current. That means it may show your voltage is dipping less but it is because your amp is getting less juice and making less power. We tested this in real world by removing a cap and gaining in NUMEROUS spl vehicles.

it may even out voltage spikes, but only at the cost of the amps you paid your $$ for.

Did you read this part?

"but really shouldn't be needed if you did everything else correctly."

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

lawl. this thread could be pretty good if these newbs keep arguing.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

Did you read this part?
"but really shouldn't be needed if you did everything else correctly."

did you not read my post where i said they are

NEVER NEEDED

 

[BoxdGM 10+ year member]

bad choice of words i guess. I think i might pull my cap out but it is nice because the xbox stays on during engine cranking if i use a cap w a normal battery