Are ANY amps made OUTSIDE of China?

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

what's the point of all this?

These days it's all about cost.

If you want american or japanese quality you'll pay for it, plain and simple.

If you want affordability, you won't get American or Japanese construction.

If you trust a brand you're trusting them to contract competent builders that will build what was designed, and built it to the specifications of the designer. Whether they be built in Korea, China, Iran or Antartica.

If the design is quality, should where something's built really matter?

If a $100 Pyramid is built in China I don't believe that automatically makes it the same quality as a $400 JL.

 

[95Prober 10+ year member]

what's the point of all this?
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well the point is, im just trying to educate myself further about the amp market.

is there something wrong with that??

there are lots of threads i read more pointless than this one

since im in a unique position personally, actually in korea, and in a position where many woudnt have a chance to experience, it enables me to look into korean/chinese companies and visit their companies which i have already.

so the more info i can gather, the better

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

Aren't Diamond amps USA-made?

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

watabout the rockford fosgatea 25-life series? aint tht made in arizona or sometihng?

 

[genxx 10+ year member]

What about ARC. I am pretty sure Audison and Sinfoni are Italy but I bet there parts come from some where else, not sure though. I might just be loosing it.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

No, they are made in Korea. I looked into USA manufacturing and it would double my build cost and, thusly, double end user cost. I don't see many folks paying $1200 MSRP for a 1500 watt amplifier, do you? Thing is... most of the parts would still come from Korea and/or elsewhere in Asia even if they were assembled here.

Bingo.

 

[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

What about ARC. I am pretty sure Audison and Sinfoni are Italy but I bet there parts come from some where else, not sure though. I might just be loosing it.

Heard Arc is from Korea, from a pretty reliable source. But not 100% sure. Too bad no one can confirm it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

So is this Zenon company in taiwan?

Woops reread guess it's in Korea somewhere.

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

dls?

sweeden?

im not sure if they outsource. but theres another one //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

yea... if someone uses design in the usa and moves the same design to korea, whats the difference?

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

Heard Arc is from Korea, from a pretty reliable source. But not 100% sure. Too bad no one can confirm it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif
So is this Zenon company in taiwan?

Woops reread guess it's in Korea somewhere.

Yes Zenon is in korea...

ALOT of the internet communities "favorite" amps come from Zenon;

Incriminator Audio

Sundown Audio

Adassa

Atomic

RD

Cactus Sounds

 

[00poop6x 10+ year member]

These days it's all about cost.If a $100 Pyramid is built in China I don't believe that automatically makes it the same quality as a $400 JL.

$400 Pyramid will be same quality as $400 JL then.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/graduate.gif.d982460be9f153bb54e5d4cb744f6ae8.gif

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

My amps were built...in my basement...

oh wait...

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[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

Yes Zenon is in korea...
ALOT of the internet communities "favorite" amps come from Zenon;

Incriminator Audio

Sundown Audio

Adassa

Atomic

RD

Cactus Sounds

so clif, you're saying im right ??? ***GASP*** //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif No one else read my post apparently //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

I read it, I even QUOTED it.

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

ALL DLS amps are chinese made. Could you tell? Some of the best amps money can buy and excellent fit and finish.

All Arc Audio amps are made in Taiwan. QC'd there, and final QC'd for tolerances in the US. Solid, some of the best reliability around- great example of of excellent QC and bulletproof engineering(Rob Zeff).

Only Zapco amp supposedly still made in US is the C2K line. DC's and I-forces are made overseas, Reference questionable.

The new TRU Technology Billet amps are assembled in the US, one by one. They are made per order, and take several weeks before shipping out. They use some US high end parts that are added at the facility.

US Amps- Merlin/Ax have boards partially made overseas, final board additions and assembly done in the US.

Diamond- all amps made in China now. D3's(designed by Zeff) used to be made by ARPA of America with the Zapco stuff years ago.

Audison- made in Italy.

Sinfoni- handmade in Italy.

Brax-handmade in Germany.

Helix - Made in Germany

McIntosh amps- 100% made in the USA.

People .....'Made in the USA' and 'Assembled in the USA' are two diff things. 100% Made in the USA is a rarity. Alot of companies use overseas manufacturing for mainly the reduced cost of the PCB manufacturing.