aq vs. sundown jacobs test

[jstutzman 10+ year member]

my 2 cents is that i love this type of stuff. Two very reasonable people, describing the differences between two quality amplifiers. It gives people like me, that dont live and breathe car audio, real insite into what i am buying. I wish there was something like this for every amp. This is no different than any other product, one is a little better but your going to pay for it. Before this post i knew nothing about DJs amps. I now feel very confident buying his stuff instead of many other brands. I also fell very confident buying anything sundown. All i have seen is people telling me that they are awesome. Looks like both guys are very professional and becuase of this will probably try to stick to one of these brands. Note, i hate to see the SAX-50.4 going away. I might have to buy another one before they go. Great little amp.

 

[05fronty 5,000+ posts]

i have seen aq amps in vehicles produce some great sound. i have sundown amps in my truck. both companies are great imo.

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

and in any batch of either of the amps one 3500 may do 3500 one the dot and the next could do 3900 etc.

FALSE.

they will all be within 5% or less of each other. Most likely within 1%.

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

That whole comment could have been made via PM to DJ. -1 for that one.

Nah, that's your opinion. I felt it was necessary.

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

I wish there was something like this for every amp.

THIS ^^^^

You guys that are telling me basically that I need to shut up are some nuthuggers.... I know who you are.

People want to see these tests. I agree. If there were tests like this for every one of these amps on the market, there would be no need for people to "weed" through marketing BS. You would know exactly what you were gonna get, no suprizes... I can't even fathom why someone would say you shouldn't compare products. Someone who thinks I shouldn't have even posted in here feel like commenting on this? Maybe your comments can make me understand WHY you shouldn't compare this stuff? Please do tell....

 

[anj46907 10+ year member]

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[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

Very fair comparison, I respect both companies.

 

[kfx450r 10+ year member]

Nice test, good responses. I wish it was a standard and a requirement for companies to test/rate/and publish their results on all their amps from 12-14v. Unfortunatly that prob wont happen anytime soon. Either way both amps are beast, seems most people are tight for $$ these days, if I was Id probly go for the AQ, solid, does rated and cheaper.

 

[its_ray_ray 10+ year member]

lawl

 

[DJL 10+ year member]

I really don't want to piss anyone off here, but since I post here alot I have to say this....
I DO believe in comparing these products. As long as nothing FALSE is stated then there is NO problem with doing this.

Comparing these products helps to drive YOU GUYS to making better products and marketing them correctly. All business shit aside I am looking out for these guys here and I too use this stuff and I don't see any problems with doing comparisons. It's a good thing.

DJ, I think your amps are great, you do a great job, and at least you don't overrate your amps like some companies do, misleading people, that's shady.... You are doing great. But I think maybe the attitude towards doing comparisons needs to change. Just my $0.02 whether you want it or not. It's not a "pissing contest", it's a real world testing product comparison test. Hmmm... Consumer reports comes to mind.... You think they shouldn't exist? Maybe if they are taking bribes or something, but assuming the tests are accurate, how could they be a "bad thing" for the consumers? I don't think so.

Yes Jacob underrates his amps, yes, they cost more, yes he puts alot of money, time, thought, consideration into them, and a 2 year warranty that has an outstanding reputation. So I say yes, for those who can afford it, go for the Sundown. Not saying your AQ amps are any less of a value, quite the opposite, they are a GREAT value. I can tell you this, from doing repairs on these Zenon-design-based amps, which that is most of the popular amps out there today in the 2000-10,000 watt catagories, Jacob's amps are the best version of them hands down. And I'll stick to that. Show me a better one... can't because there isn't. He really puts some effort and money into those amps, hence the reason they are higher priced and have a longer warranty.

A lot of people assume I am so biased to Sundown, but it's just not true. His amps really are built better, just look at the pics of the insides, if you have ANY idea what you are looking at you can see the differences, and Sundown's customer service is "off the hook". I just tell it like is and call 'em as I see 'em..... That's how I roll, and I plan on staying that way....

Consumer reports are done by unbiased 3rd parties, not by the people who make and sell the products. I think they do a great job of laying all the pros and cons out for the consumer. I read them all the time; nothing like a good unbiased 3rd party comparison void of marketing hype.

 

[jnralp00 10+ year member]

That whole comment could have been made via PM to DJ. -1 for that one.

I have to agree^^^

Fact is you are biased towards sundown, that statement should have been kept to yourself. You make a living doing warranty repairs for him to an extent. The line of work you are in kinda puts you in a place where you should stay out of these threads completely to maintain your professional billing. (I just lost a little respect for you after reading your opinion) Just my opinion though. AQ does what they say they do Sundown does more, but you will pay for the difference.

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

If you actually read my posts here you will know I am not biased. I am sure jacob wishes I was, but he knows I am not. My participation in these threads does not affect my billing. I just tell the truth and lay it all out like it is and its too much for some to handle. So I get responses like this. Really if you read my posts you will see what I am really about. I point out the good and the bad in all products because I deal with them everyday. Lots of people here are glad that I do. Not all are though, but only they can change that.

 

[Decaf 10+ year member]

civility is refreshing when it comes to things like this

thumbs up to both... likely these two companies are paving well thoughtout paths for themselves ending in the same place... a name to trust and a name to respect

 

[Mr.Ronin_2U]

Consumer reports are done by unbiased 3rd parties, not by the people who make and sell the products. I think they do a great job of laying all the pros and cons out for the consumer. I read them all the time; nothing like a good unbiased 3rd party comparison void of marketing hype.

So true,that's like if Nike did a comparison against Adidas,or Reebok.

 

[EuphoricBass247 10+ year member]

Pretty much what this thread accomplished was to put the facts out that AQ and Sundown are both for the fukn win.You cant go with with either.DJ and Jacob are at a clear understanding on how things should be run and they are doing it right.