aq vs. sundown jacobs test

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Hey, I think I seen you at the Waco (Shades custom tint) deal a couple weeks ago. My boy Brian was in the 0-1000 mod last year. The Jeep with the Incriminator sticker on the back. He's running an S-10 this year in Pro Stock 601-1800.
I think I seen you a tahoe or something. Anyways, will be seeing you soon at the shows.

I've never made it to a Waco show, and I won't be competing anymore until next year...have a wedding to pay for. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

I've never made it to a Waco show, and I won't be competing anymore until next year...have a wedding to pay for. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

Congrats on the wedding.

It was slam that I saw there.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

It's also funny that Sundown's are of such good quality that you don't seem to have a problem maintaining a constant supply of refurbs..... :laugh

I hate that I have to cover this weekly... but the fact of the matter is that in 90% of the cases when a customer has a problem with any amp for *any reason* -- even if they did something wrong like hooking it up backwards, dropped to 6 volts, etc -- they end up getting a new amp back under warranty (if it is their fault there is a small charge). If it's a discontinued model, an issue I'd specifically like to know the cause of (I request that Chris tell me when he does the work), or we are out of stock are almost the only times I will prefer to have an amp repaired over replacing it.

Why ? I like to get customers back up and running as soon as possible -- and that is faster than a repair. So I then put their old amp to the side and make it available to Chris.

If I had everyone send their amps in for repair and never replaced them there wouldn't be any refurbished amps available... does that mean the return rate is lower ? No -- it just means my customers would be waiting longer to get their stuff back AND people would not have the opportunity to get the refurbished amps at a discount as they do now.

I see that as a win-win but at least once a week someone pops up and cites that as a reason why Sundown amps sucks *laughs* Customers that get a replacement amp in a matter of a few days would say otherwise.

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

Morning jacob, also, rebuilding and reselling every single Sundown amp that is returned for whatever reason gives Sundown a bigger market presence since none of them end up in the trash, they all end up back in someone's car bumping. Bigger market presence hence more hatred toward the brand for being so popular. It comes with the territory.

 

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

sundown and AQ both are total shit..
I can get a 1400watt sony amp for $70

thats 20watts a $1

sundown is: 3.6watts a $1

so the sony amps are wayy better, price, and quality.

I tried to Sig this, but there wasn't enough room.......//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

Someone needs to.

 

[tymoto21 10+ year member]

i dont get why people are bashing jacob or db-r, i have talked to both and done business with jacob and he is true to his word. i wouldnt hesitate to buy something from him again. and as far as db-r being biased toward sundown that is just stupid. he could recomend some pyle-o-shit and say he tested it and it did soooo much power then when all the people bought it and had it fry send it in to him to get it repaired he would make a killing.

this thread was just a comparison of two amps that are rated the same.

go to ROE.ampguts and tell me that entire link isnt "BIASED" it has alot of amps including gut shots and some have rated/actual power specs. that is exactly what this post was and now some people decided to get a stick stuck up their ***** about it. both owners have posted and neither said anything bad about the other company get over it and let this thread be. its useful for some people who didnt know there was a difference between amps rated at the same power.

 

[09Alti 10+ year member]

I tried to Sig this, but there wasn't enough room.......//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gifSomeone needs to.

Done //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[hrtbrk1 5,000+ posts]

I hate that I have to cover this weekly... but the fact of the matter is that in 90% of the cases when a customer has a problem with any amp for *any reason* -- even if they did something wrong like hooking it up backwards, dropped to 6 volts, etc -- they end up getting a new amp back under warranty (if it is their fault there is a small charge). If it's a discontinued model, an issue I'd specifically like to know the cause of (I request that Chris tell me when he does the work), or we are out of stock are almost the only times I will prefer to have an amp repaired over replacing it.
Why ? I like to get customers back up and running as soon as possible -- and that is faster than a repair. So I then put their old amp to the side and make it available to Chris.

If I had everyone send their amps in for repair and never replaced them there wouldn't be any refurbished amps available... does that mean the return rate is lower ? No -- it just means my customers would be waiting longer to get their stuff back AND people would not have the opportunity to get the refurbished amps at a discount as they do now.

I see that as a win-win but at least once a week someone pops up and cites that as a reason why Sundown amps sucks *laughs* Customers that get a replacement amp in a matter of a few days would say otherwise.

also did that with my sub //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif needed it quick so he sent me another one

 

[bernser1er 10+ year member]

that's what i like to hear from big companies

Our business models are a little different but we both believe in selling good products and servicing what we sell. You guys put the food on our tables, you have paid for good customer service.

 

[vdubsuck69 10+ year member]

sundown and AQ both are total shit..
I can get a 1400watt sony amp for $70

thats 20watts a $1

sundown is: 3.6watts a $1

so the sony amps are wayy better, price, and quality.

hahahahahahahahaha ur a ****ing moron. idk if anybody called u out on this but ur the dumbest ****ing retarded mother****er on here. stay out of car audio u stupid piece of shit, and gtfo this forum it aint for u dumbass

 

[BobbyDD 10+ year member]

hahahahahahahahaha ur a ****ing moron. idk if anybody called u out on this but ur the dumbest ****ing retarded mother****er on here. stay out of car audio u stupid piece of shit, and gtfo this forum it aint for u dumbass

Your sarcasm meter seems to be broken.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Macklessdaddy 10+ year member]

hahahahahahahahaha ur a ****ing moron. idk if anybody called u out on this but ur the dumbest ****ing retarded mother****er on here. stay out of car audio u stupid piece of shit, and gtfo this forum it aint for u dumbass

It was a joke you ****ing moron.IDK if anybody called you out on this but you're the dumbest ****ing retarded mother****er on here, stay out of car audio u stupid piece of shit,and gtfo of this forum it ain't for you dumbass.

 

[blkbeater 10+ year member]

it was overall a great comparison. i have recently delt with dj and there was a minor mistake with my order and he really took care of me. which is the main reason im goin back to him for my amp. i havent delt with jacob or sundown. but i hear everyone rant and rave about both companies. but now that they are side by side one has to get bashed? fvck that. what more do u want. they make excelent products, period. and they stand behind em 110% and i give props to jacob for gettin customers back on their feet asap.

i do car audio for a living and believe me customer service is everything. u dont take care of someone and they spend their money elsewhere.

from what ive seen db-r was stating what he sees everyday. may have been blunt and straight forward but its the truth

 

[matt.u 10+ year member]

i like seeing these types of comparisons it just shows that these company's are giving you a great product that does rated or more for your hard earned money. i have the AQ2200D i love it had a problem with my remote and DJ was kool on the phone he sent me another one also with a messed up sub the tripple joint failed he repaired it free which is why i plan on getting all my audio equipment from AQ. i plan on buying the AQ4X90 and the new AQ3500.1D because of the cs and product performance