Exactly and the aq is cheaper by a large margin. With that being said, that gives a clear cut winner between the 2 im my eyes. Leaves you money to do other things.
why do people choose jl audio of volfenhag. quality, customer service, reputation, sexiness. not saying aq isnt, but sundown is the best by far, and i dont think i will ever own another amp from any other company until they prove to me what sundown has
so your saying aq is better for the money, or your saying you can get more watts for less money. either way i do think aq 3500 will be stronger, more efficient, sexier, or built as well as sundowns 3000d. im sticking with sundown. everyone can go there own way but with my experience sundown FTW
No, but $650 -$900 is a rather large jump for a difference that could be negligible. I also don't think CS is a valid argument in this case either. I mean we're not talking about Sundown vs. eD. 
I just don't think there is a hands down winner.
I threw the crunch in there because no one has brought up size. Is there a size difference between the 2? That could be a talking point depending on how much room you have. In my case, I would take the Crunch over both because the power is the same, the support is the same, and the size difference is large. I can fit the Crunch under my seat and I would have to remove my seat for the Sundown.
I just don't think there is a hands down winner.
I threw the crunch in there because no one has brought up size. Is there a size difference between the 2? That could be a talking point depending on how much room you have. In my case, I would take the Crunch over both because the power is the same, the support is the same, and the size difference is large. I can fit the Crunch under my seat and I would have to remove my seat for the Sundown.
doesnt mmats make a small footprint amp that will push 3000?
Explain. What makes the sundown far more superior? What break through technologies are used on the sundown, that isnt on the aq? Or maybe you just own sundown, and are biased.. Either way, I dont see much of an case here..
i actually am pretty biased towards sundown
Well there you have it:laugh:
The Crunch gp3000d does NOT make the same power as the Sundown saz-3000d. Sundown is rated at 12.8v and the Crunch is rated at 14.4v. The Sundown made 3200watts all the way down to 10v where as the Crunch only made 2800watts @ 12v. Feed the Sundown a solid 14.4v and you'll see 4kwatts+ easy.No, but $650 -$900 is a rather large jump for a difference that could be negligible. I also don't think CS is a valid argument in this case either. I mean we're not talking about Sundown vs. eD.
I just don't think there is a hands down winner.
I threw the crunch in there because no one has brought up size. Is there a size difference between the 2? That could be a talking point depending on how much room you have. In my case, I would take the Crunch over both because the power is the same, the support is the same, and the size difference is large. I can fit the Crunch under my seat and I would have to remove my seat for the Sundown.
What voltage are the AQ amps rated at? If its 14.4v then I believe the Sundown will make more "real" power.
kovemaster559
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its not realy about power. but clean power. its like choseing a cheap *** boss amp that says it does 4000 watts over a a fosgatet4000 or a kicker. hands down i trust sundown with the amps. very realiable and well build piece of equiptment. im not sure what the % is on effecientcy is but it must be high since they realy do perform and put out clean raw power
TurdFergueson2
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As stated earlier by 169db on page 2. This is also on the AQ website as well.
Specifications
Model AQ3500D
Digital Monoblock 1 ohm stable
Input Sensitivity 0.2V ~ 8V
Variable Low Pass Filter 20Hz ~ 200Hz @ 24dB/Slope
Subsonic Filter 10Hz ~ 50Hz @ 24dB/Slope
2 amp linkable connection Output Master / Input Slave
Remote Gain Control yes
Clipping Display Led yes
Signal to Noise Ratio 85dB
Damping Factor 250
Efficiency 85% at 4 ohm
External Fuse Rating 300 Amp in-line, 600 for pair
Tested Voltage and THD 14.4V with less than 1% THD
Working Voltage 9.5V ~ 18.5V
4 ohm power 990W x 1
2 ohm power 1,860W x 1
1 ohm power 3,500W x 1
1 ohm Power @ 16V @ 1% THD 4,000W x 1
1 ohm Power @ 18V @ 1% THD 5,100W x 1
1 ohm Power @ 18V @ 10% THD 6,500W x 1
2 ohm Linked Power @ 18V @ 1% THD 10,000W x 1
2 ohm Linked Power @ 18V @ 10% THD 13,000W x 1
Dimensions 540mm (L) x 238mm (W) x 59.6mm (H)
Power and Ground Inputs 0 Guage
Bottom line is it comes down to personal choice. Both should perform and perform well.
Fine Vol
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Do the Sundown run pretty cool compared to most amps?
TeamRetribution
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Yea it does......dont follow AQ ...so i have no comment on it
Ok guys, here it is. Depending on your battery set up this amp will make an ungodly amount of power. With a 12volt battery set up dropping to 11.5 volts the Crunch GP3000D Pro made 2850 watts at a 1.03 ohm reactive. That's 4 12volt batteries. If you can get the voltage up the amp will make much more. By just starting the car and using the high amp alternator (starting at 16.1 volts and dropping to 12.3volts), the 3000 made 3732 watts. That's crazy isn't it. THAT'S NOTHING! I hooked it up to a 16volt battery set up and it just went crazy! With the battery voltage dropping to 15.7 volts with a 1.4 ohm reactive this monster made 4640 usable watts. NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT!
This is from a quote on the termpro fourum.
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