And history repeats itself...

[sundownz Pro Seller]

But I'd rather have something I like looking at vs. something I don't....which is why I continue on the my 18 - 22 mpg s-10...

Indeed, the lack selection for good looking cars with good mileage is annoying. I mean, I like my Civic, but it's not the best looking car in history or anything.

It would be EASY to make the S-10 get better mileage without changing the looks... there is no reason that your truck shouldn't have been made with an option for a diesel with good mileage. Well... other than the fact that many American buyers like the "vroom vroom" sound of a gasoline engine *laughs*

 

[bigbowtie 10+ year member]

100 bucks at the pump sucks but chicks dig it

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

But see the issue is, financially it doesn't make much sense to buy a new vehicle for a fuel savings. My truck is nearly paid off and as I get more and more miles, becomes nearly worthless.

The cars I have looked at are in the 32 mpg range...Let's pretend 36 mpg to make the math easy. At $4/gallon, I'd save about $500/yr in gas....it isn't worth me buying something new to save $500.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

But see the issue is, financially it doesn't make much sense to buy a new vehicle for a fuel savings. My truck is nearly paid off and as I get more and more miles, becomes nearly worthless.
The cars I have looked at are in the 32 mpg range...Let's pretend 36 mpg to make the math easy. At $4/gallon, I'd save about $500/yr in gas....it isn't worth me buying something new to save $500.

You are right, which is why your vehicle should have already been made with good fuel mileage from the start, but it wasn't. Not much we can do about it now except complain about how far behind we are on fuel mileage in America.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

You are right, which is why your vehicle should have already been made with good fuel mileage from the start, but it wasn't. Not much we can do about it now except complain about how far behind we are on fuel mileage in America.

It wasn't because we as consumers don't demand it. While I only buy used cars and only indirectly influence car sales, I didn't chose a more fuel effecient vehicle...and didn't "do my part".

 

[bigbowtie 10+ year member]

most "good gas mileage" cars you cant have much fun in or tow anything

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Meh.

nG

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

most "good gas mileage" cars you cant have much fun in or tow anything

my car averages about 30mpg on the highway, about 23-25 in the city, and still does 0-60 in 5 seconds... not the best gas mileage, ill say that, but its a pretty fair compromise IMO.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

my car averages about 30mpg on the highway, about 23-25 in the city, and still does 0-60 in 5 seconds... not the best gas mileage, ill say that, but its a pretty fair compromise IMO.

doesn't it also use premium gas?

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

doesn't it also use premium gas?

LAwl.

nG

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

yeah, it does take premium, but so do all the motors listed in the OP i believe.

 

[jdc753 10+ year member]

wait, let me get this straight... youre saying that other countries have already realized that diesel is a better, more efficient, cleaner alternative to gas?
shenanigans!

Its an amazing thing, but aren't diesels dirty and smell and they clatter awfully loud, just soo not refined at all like a modern gasser, I just couldn't bare to ride around in something so unrefined and not technologically advanced. Oh and dear heavens don't tell me I would be sharing a pump with those awful disheveled truckers.

Diesels have always been more efficient to run and have always had a longer lifespan that gas motors, why do you think you see diesels in all commercial situations where it be a gen set, combine, or truck that sees 300,000+ miles Each and every Year. Only downside has been before they have always been heavy compared to a gasser and a narrow powerband and not as high reving. Many of the first hybrid concept cars used diesel instead of gas as well and could were achieving 70mpg back in the mid 90's. I will be happy to see more diesel options.

I don't see fuel prices getting any better though. currently I am paying 50 cents more per gallon for diesel than I would pay for regular gas and about 10 cents more per gallon than premium gas.

Sure is going to be interesting to follow the way this is headed. Many have said lately that we have been living in a time very much akin to the 60's with the performance cars we have been seeing, 500HP mustang, 500HP+ corvettes, all sorts of performance packages SRT8, SRT10, ect. Now I guess we gotta go through what happened after the 60's as well. Time to snag a ZR1 or Z06 and a Shelby GT500KR and maybe an SRT8 Charger for the time capsule.

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

im thinking thats sarcasm in there //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

but yes, that was true of the older diesel motors. but modern diesels have come pretty much full circle.

 

[jdc753 10+ year member]

im thinking thats sarcasm in there //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
but yes, that was true of the older diesel motors. but modern diesels have come pretty much full circle.

Oh it was very sarcastic lol, I am one of the sick few who enjoy the raw smell of diesel exhaust. I was worried when I got my 05 F350 it was gonna be too quiet for my liking lol.

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

another benefit of diesel (which could also be seen as a benefit of gas, to a lesser extent...)

is the flexibility of the motors. there are several tuners out there that can make modules which adjust power output on the fly, in many cases allowing several hundred extra Hp to be made on demand, and then you can roll the power back down to go back to getting good gas mileage when you dont need/want that juice.

only one example of this comes to mind with a gas engine, and its not on a car...