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i have seen, and experienced amps smoking for not apparent, controllable reason. sometimes transistors just fail, and a resistor out of spec can cause this, as well. not the most likely but does happen. anyways, what happens with a voltage drop really depends on how the amp is designed, or what type. keeping it simple, we'll look at pwm, power supplies, which are real common. what they are doing is switching 12v back, and forth through one side of the transformer, usualy, each direction is under 1/4 of the time on. it monitors the other side of the transformer to keep the voltage up to a certain level( rail voltage). when you have less voltage, then there is less power coming out of the 12v supply, then it has to work harder, and keep the pulses on longer, to pass more power and keep the rai supply up. it will max out at 50% cycle. the transformer relies on a charged rail to keep resistance down on the primary side. as that is depleted, it allows more current through. past this point, there is voltage drop on both sides. it is real similar to a low battery turning the starter in your car. at higher voltage it passes an acceptable amount of current, and stays cool enough while working. a half dead battery barely turns the starter less, and drops resistance, passing more current. you can often see starter damage coincide with a weak battery, or recent weak battery. similar principal with transistors.
Thanks for the explanation. So basically, if low voltage is what caused it to smoke, it's because resistance was too low, allowing more amperage to run across the amp's internal components, which exceeded their capacity. Is that correct?

But I want to say this wasn't the reason. Obviously I don't know, I'm just guessing and I need to take measurements to know for sure, but as I said before, I'm pretty sure voltage wasn't below 13V. I'm not ruling it out by no means, and it's on the list of possible causes, but for some reason I am just hesitant to say that was it. Again, I have much to learn.

I'm hopin to get some things done today. I have the worst hangover in the world right now. Don't ever, ever, think that doing rounds of Jagerbombs is a good idea. I must have drank about 5 red bulls last night. I don't know how my heart hasn't exploded.

 
Unfortunately this is still out of my price range.


The engine was running. I have 0ga from amp to ground. 0ga from alt to battery and battery to ground, however I have done gotten engine to ground yet, because it's impossible to get to without taking off the intercooler. Haven't had time for that. I need to find that time, I know. I have a Yellowtop battery, 750 CCA's, and it's brand new. I have not checked it, but with it being less than a week old, I would assume it's fine. I have not measured any connections to check for voltage loss, but that will need to happen. I do have some work to do.

I guess I was completely oblivious to the fact that it was possible to toast an amp by not feeding it enough power. I have so much to learn. Kinda ***** I'm doin it the hard way though! Lol.

I very much need to figure this out before I put a new amp in. I am with you on that one.
Sounds like you are getting there with the wiring. Based on the above, I am with akheathen's initial thoughts and yours as well..bummed amp. That Dc is a good amp.

 
Straight up hands down
Rockford Fosgate t2500-1bdcp...make sure its the cp.

mine the birth sheet is over 3300 at one and 2 ohm.
I have never seen a gut shot on Sonic Electronix before.

i dont have a wish list ,i have had or am getting all the amps i've ever wanted to run .next up is 2 ab500.1 amps strapped at .7 on one 18 mayhem in my 4 runner
Must be nice to have cash! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
^^ i don't think anybody would argue with the quality of that amp.
the quality is undeniable, but the little gain in power output vs loss of efficiency between 2ohms and 1ohm *****.

Dynamic Power

(PVC/PowerCube® Measurement): 1823 Watts x 1 @ 4-Ohms

2940 Watts x 1 @ 2-Ohms

2980 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm

Efficiency (average):

81.9% @ 4-Ohm

77.7% @ 2-Ohm

64.5% @ 1-Ohm

 
the quality is undeniable, but the little gain in power output vs loss of efficiency between 2ohms and 1ohm *****.
Dynamic Power

(PVC/PowerCube® Measurement): 1823 Watts x 1 @ 4-Ohms

2940 Watts x 1 @ 2-Ohms

2980 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm

Efficiency (average):

81.9% @ 4-Ohm

77.7% @ 2-Ohm

64.5% @ 1-Ohm
and thats good for a fosgate amp, most are 75% at 4 ohms

 
i've been talking to him since last night ,but he hasnt made up his mind what he's gonna do .i gave him a price on a 2.0 dc amp .he wants it shipped to him in japan ,which i will do [military] but i told him that he needs to pay the pp fees also .

 
I have not made up my mind on a new amp. Can't decide between an AQ2200D or the DC 2.0k. AQ offered a discount, so I could get that amp for $100 less. I'm leaning towards that, simply because of the lower price. Is the DC worth paying the extra for or should I just go with the AQ?

 
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