Abortion

[oldschool4me 10+ year member]

I don't mind people who are pro-life. I understand it. I personally believe that you have to leave people to their own devices. It's their problem, let them deal with it how they see fit. I don't think it's right for the government to enact laws that impede on it, because, just like gay marriage, it attempts to put a definition to words that we all know, such as love, and life. "When does life start?" Is it the second the sperm reaches the egg? When the heart starts? When it starts to look like a human instead of a **** alien? When it comes out of the womb? Or when it actually becomes cognitive (the human brain, once out of the womb, isn't exactly "cognitive". It just reacts, much like reptiles. It basically is run by the ID center of your brain, which is just a really primitive part of your brain. Point is, I don't think it's right for ANYONE to impose their beliefs forcefully onto someone else.I respect people who are religious, I am not... But, I won't sit there and say, "BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS FLAW?!" Just as I expect that person to not come in my face and start yelling "JESUS WILL SET YOU FREE!"

But, that's the problem, I believe. Most people have no respect for each other. It's as if there is only one truth in the world for EVERYTHING, only one perspective, and that's yours... and if anyone else doesn't see it that way, they're definitively wrong.

/rant.

EDIT:: Something I want to add after reading a few other people's comments...

Everyone keeps calling girls who get pregnant when they don't want it whores... but that's not true at all. My Mom, who was everything but a whore, got pregnant when she was 16. She had the kid, and it completely ruined her life. She gave it up for adoption, but by that time, she was already behind in school, she didn't have enough money to really life, and ended up having to drop out and join the work force to pay for the hospital bills. After she told the father she was pregnant, he high-tailed it out of dodge, and she, to this day, doesn't know where the father is. She was in love, and things just went bad. I never really asked if she would've aborted if she had the option. But not all girls who get knocked-up are bad people. Some have just made bad decisions, and we've ALL made bad decisions, and sometimes, those bad decisions can get blown-up into proportions you never even knew existed.

thats kind of what i stated about people believe that everyone should live by their beliefs. it stems alot further than this issue. someone here doesnt seem to get the fact that i dont totaly agree with the governments proposed law and the fact that i dont totally disagree either.

its an all or nothing issue from the governments standpoint. and i agree with points from both sides of it just as i desagree with some from both sides.

i just feel that there are situations where it is understandable and some it is not. i think it should have to be done early in the pregnancy is the main thing i stress. but im not going to vote or endorse any law that is 100% yes or no on the issue. there is a medium that will never probably be met.

if people worried about their own choices/lives as much as they do everyone elses the world would be a better place.

you have to love this country that keeps passing laws because so many people ***** about how other people live their lives in this so called FREE country. they want to control what you can do outside and even inside your home. this would be considered communism. were taking the free out of freedom leaving us with dom (dumb).

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

Looks like the majority of members enjoy killing babies. Anytime you abort a ***** that most likely WOULD HAVE been born normally and had the chance to live a life, no matter how good or bad, it amounts to nothing more than murder. Who are we as mere humans to decide who lives and who dies?

 

[97gp 5,000+ posts]

Looks like the majority of members enjoy killing babies

I dont see anything wrong with it.

 

[oldschool4me 10+ year member]

Looks like the majority of members enjoy killing babies

i didnt know there was doctors on here. i dont recall anyone stating this. some like to shoot baby animals for sport as well and i think they enjoy it very much. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[infamous_e46 5,000+ posts]

if it weren't for abortion i would have an 8 year old and a 10 year old
viva la abortion

VIVA BEING AN IRRESPONSIBLE F4GGOT

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

i didnt know there was doctors on here. i dont recall anyone stating this. some like to shoot baby animals for sport as well and i think they enjoy it very much. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

Humans are on a different level than animals

 

[95ZJ 10+ year member]

Pro life through and through.

 

[Compjake 10+ year member]

Humans are on a different level than animals

Is that your way of saying humans are better then animals?

 

[MmatsDude 10+ year member]

I don't mind people who are pro-life. I understand it. I personally believe that you have to leave people to their own devices. It's their problem, let them deal with it how they see fit. I don't think it's right for the government to enact laws that impede on it, because, just like gay marriage, it attempts to put a definition to words that we all know, such as love, and life. I respect people who are religious, I am not... But, I won't sit there and say, "BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS FLAW?!" Just as I expect that person to not come in my face and start yelling "JESUS WILL SET YOU FREE!"

But, that's the problem, I believe. Most people have no respect for each other. It's as if there is only one truth in the world for EVERYTHING, only one perspective, and that's yours... and if anyone else doesn't see it that way, they're definitively wrong.

As I see it, it's either right or wrong (abortion that is), and people will develop their own reasons to be pro-life or pro-choice, as to with that said, I do agree with your last part, but the legality of the issue should not even be a primary consideration IMO. In addition, I think the whole "pro-life" "pro-choice" debate is something of an antiquated notion. The terms serve only to point negatively at the opposite opinion. For both sides to be metaphysically immodest is perhaps imperative; regardless, for there to be any resolution of this issue, it must be a universal consensus. Since that seems unlikely, I'll sometimes merely state what I've come up with in my own reasoning about this issue.

"When does life start?" Is it the second the sperm reaches the egg? When the heart starts? When it starts to look like a human instead of a **** alien? When it comes out of the womb? Or when it actually becomes cognitive (the human brain, once out of the womb, isn't exactly "cognitive". It just reacts, much like reptiles. It basically is run by the ID center of your brain, which is just a really primitive part of your brain. Point is, I don't think it's right for ANYONE to impose their beliefs forcefully onto someone else.

For that matter, I think that the idea that timing makes abortion acceptable has since become obsolete in my line of thinking. A human ***** will never develope into anything but a morally-capable, sentient being. If for some reason the timing genes were tampered with and the fetal brain ceased developing before gaining its extra convolutions and large frontal lobe, and somehow took a step backward in the parade of ontogeny, and was something less than human and not capable of reason, I would probably say that in that case abortion was at least somewhat justifiable. The fact that it is in the process of developing into an independently aware being deters me from drawing that conclusion. I also believe that If one justifies abortion by the statement that it is not morally-capable or self-aware, one could also use that same argument to justify infanticide, or even the murder of schizophrenics.

Maybe it's just it's simply that because a ***** doesn't look fully human, we find it acceptable to terminate it.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

Is that your way of saying humans are better then animals?

Yes.

 

[Compjake 10+ year member]

Yes.

I'm sorry but you sir should be shot.

Just because we can build houses and use computers does NOT make us better than animals.

And after your answer, I think most animals are smarter then you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[MmatsDude 10+ year member]

Pro life, except in cases of **** and extreme baby defect detection.

I agree with that, I believe we have a moral obligation to prevent pain and suffering if possible, and if an abortion would do that for a given case, then the choice should be allowed.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

I'm sorry but you sir should be shot.
Just because we can build houses and use computers does NOT make us better than animals.

And after your answer, I think most animals are smarter then you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Way to prove my point idiot. Yes, because we can build houses and use computers is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to separating humans from animals, not to mention the complex emotional aspect. Did you graduate from high school, or are you still plugging away at that GED? I don't know how this could be any more obvious.

 

[97gp 5,000+ posts]

I'm sorry but you sir should be shot.
Just because we can build houses and use computers does NOT make us better than animals.

And after your answer, I think most animals are smarter then you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

An you should slit your wrist emo feggot

 

[mcsoul 10+ year member]

I'm sorry but you sir should be shot.
Just because we can build houses and use computers does NOT make us better than animals.

And after your answer, I think most animals are smarter then you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif