Prowler573
5,000+ posts
R.I.P. Gossamer!!
a) RMS is a measure of wattage. So is Max or Peak. Saying "watts not rms" does look ignorant. Please refrain from doing so in the future.
b) That statement about "I'm a private seller - I don't have to have customer service" is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard in my life. Once you have a customer you should provide CS. /story
c) If the seller provided inaccurate output ratings because those ratings were honestly to the best of his knowledge then there's no real fault there. As the buyer failed to do all available diligent research (how could you skip that step buying anything online?!?) that only served to further the confusion.
On the flipside of the same coin, however, if the seller intentionally misrepresented the item knowing full well that his assertion of 500w RMS X 2 (as seen in the PM) was false then that is inarguably false advertising. Additionally it could be considered Theft By Fraud in some jurisdictions as the intent of that fraud, if there was any, was financial gain.
At this stage in the game it is going to be impossible to tell which was actually the case, sadly... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif And knowing that little tidbit of information would be the defining factor in whether or not iceman is owed a refund.
At the end of this, however, this should serve as a good lesson for iceman. It's clearly outlined in the thread I made in the Classifieds that the mod team was kind enough to sticky ~ Research Research Research. DO lots of it. Do it until your eyeballs are sore from all the online reading. Find out more information about any given product that you are considering buying than the people that manufactured it even know about it.
After you've exhausted all possible avenues to gain information and you've still decided to go ahead with the purchase?
Then go get it.
Someone said one of the first 3 results when you Google that amp is a store selling it for $89. If that's true (I haven't looked for myself) and you were still willing to unass $140 for it from dbman?? Caveat Emptor indeed...
b) That statement about "I'm a private seller - I don't have to have customer service" is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard in my life. Once you have a customer you should provide CS. /story
c) If the seller provided inaccurate output ratings because those ratings were honestly to the best of his knowledge then there's no real fault there. As the buyer failed to do all available diligent research (how could you skip that step buying anything online?!?) that only served to further the confusion.
On the flipside of the same coin, however, if the seller intentionally misrepresented the item knowing full well that his assertion of 500w RMS X 2 (as seen in the PM) was false then that is inarguably false advertising. Additionally it could be considered Theft By Fraud in some jurisdictions as the intent of that fraud, if there was any, was financial gain.
At this stage in the game it is going to be impossible to tell which was actually the case, sadly... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif And knowing that little tidbit of information would be the defining factor in whether or not iceman is owed a refund.
At the end of this, however, this should serve as a good lesson for iceman. It's clearly outlined in the thread I made in the Classifieds that the mod team was kind enough to sticky ~ Research Research Research. DO lots of it. Do it until your eyeballs are sore from all the online reading. Find out more information about any given product that you are considering buying than the people that manufactured it even know about it.
After you've exhausted all possible avenues to gain information and you've still decided to go ahead with the purchase?
Then go get it.
Someone said one of the first 3 results when you Google that amp is a store selling it for $89. If that's true (I haven't looked for myself) and you were still willing to unass $140 for it from dbman?? Caveat Emptor indeed...
