8" mids in doors

[RyanH 10+ year member]

Question..........

I have two 8" Whip Audio Mids going in each door on my 00 Hombre.

I want to make sure they hit the lows real good. they are rated at 60-6k hz i think....

i am going to cross them over from 60-3000, my tweets from 2500-16k, and my subs from 70 and down....

my question is, if i enclose the mids will they sound better and hit the lows better?

thanks!

and what size encloser should i do?

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[krisfnbz 10+ year member]

Do you have your doors fully dynamated?

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

don't cross your 8" mids that high, unless they're perfectly on axis...2khz is the highest I would ever think of going with 8's. Especially since you're already crossing your tweets at 2.5khz, why are you overlapping so much...I find that leaving small gaps between is better, but maybe not in your case...

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

If you have the high efficiency Whip Audio speakers that I'm thinking of.....you're not going to get any decent low end response out of them. They are high efficiency, low excursion and very likely low Q high Fs drivers (I couldn't find any real specs on them with a very brief search, so the last part is a presumption but I would be surprised if it was an inaccurate presumption).

Sealing them in a small, sealed enclosure would be an even worse idea, resulting in even more diminished low frequency response.

Most likely the only way to get anything reasonably close to good low frequency response/extension out of them would be to port them, in a properly sized and tuned enclosure (which likely won't fit in your door very well).

 

[RyanH 10+ year member]

If you have the high efficiency Whip Audio speakers that I'm thinking of.....you're not going to get any decent low end response out of them. They are high efficiency, low excursion and very likely low Q high Fs drivers (I couldn't find any real specs on them with a very brief search, so the last part is a presumption but I would be surprised if it was an inaccurate presumption).
Sealing them in a small, sealed enclosure would be an even worse idea, resulting in even more diminished low frequency response.

Most likely the only way to get anything reasonably close to good low frequency response/extension out of them would be to port them, in a properly sized and tuned enclosure (which likely won't fit in your door very well).

these are acutally high excursion 8's...

found out a good reason for no low end yesterday..... stupid me!

the speaker is 8 ohm, ( 7.3 ohm acutally ) and my amp makes 85watts at 4ohms on 1 channel....... you see the problem there!

well it didn't dawn on me untill i talked to my buddy.

so this morning i bridged it at 8 ohm, which my amp does 340 watts at 4ohms bridged..................DAYUMM!!!!! what a difference! i can acutally see the speaker moving now, it is hitting the lows just fine now!

 

[tez4life Premium Member]

these are acutally high excursion 8's...
found out a good reason for no low end yesterday..... stupid me!

the speaker is 8 ohm, ( 7.3 ohm acutally ) and my amp makes 85watts at 4ohms on 1 channel....... you see the problem there!

well it didn't dawn on me untill i talked to my buddy.

so this morning i bridged it at 8 ohm, which my amp does 340 watts at 4ohms bridged..................DAYUMM!!!!! what a difference! i can acutally see the speaker moving now, it is hitting the lows just fine now!

Cool, that maybe the first review of the Whip mids I have ever seen. I would not have figured that they would have lows like a normal speaker, figure just loud mids like other pro audio stuff. Looking forward to the finish build and thanks for that info a while back.

 

[RyanH 10+ year member]

Cool, that maybe the first review of the Whip mids I have ever seen. I would not have figured that they would have lows like a normal speaker, figure just loud mids like other pro audio stuff. Looking forward to the finish build and thanks for that info a while back.

Well here is some more info for you!

I went ahead and hooked two of the 8's together to get a 4 ohm load and bridged them on my amp! WOW!

2 of them were rattling stuff in the cab.... i have my headunit crossover set at 60hz and up and i cut everything from 2500 and up out since that is where i will cross it over at in the end. so they are played everything from 60-2500 hz.

but they sound dayum good! i can tell with a better amp, more power, and my XM6 crossover it will sound even better!

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

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[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

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[RyanH 10+ year member]

i got mine for 39.90 plus shipping each.......

http://www.dpcauto.com

search under subwoofers

they play 60hz-6k hz..... they sound VERY good i think.... mine will sound even better with cleaner power and my crossover hooked up

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Lol subwoofers........ they should be under midranges.

Definately HIGHHHHHHHHH end Dave!

 

[JCANTONE 10+ year member]

I bought mine like 2 years ago, I think before tommy started running them, paid $800 for 12 6.5's and 4 8"s

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

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[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

Is it worth it to try and blend a set of 8's in with a set of 6.5's and a substage?

 

[JCANTONE 10+ year member]

Is it worth it to try and blend a set of 8's in with a set of 6.5's and a substage?

Not really when I never even used them...went with some 6.5" o2 mids instead, they were a little quiter, but MUCH MUCH clearer!!!