8" midrange in the front?

[Bwap]

Hey, ive been thinking of different ways to set up my front stage.

So far I have 2x12" subs in the trunk, 2x8"mid-bass in the rear deck, and 6.5 coax in the rear doors.

I can only have one midrange in the front and I am considering making it an 8" seeing as I have the space. I am also liking this option because 8" midrange can handle more power as well and im looking for good power handling. My only question is whether the 8's will be too muddy in the higher fz before the tweeter takes over, or will it sound fine in the range they will be crossed?(Thinking 5,000 @12db or so)

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[logan963 10+ year member]

Hey, ive been thinking of different ways to set up my front stage.
So far I have 2x12" subs in the trunk, 2x8"mid-bass in the rear deck, and 6.5 coax in the rear doors.

I can only have one midrange in the front and I am considering making it an 8" seeing as I have the space. I am also liking this option because 8" midrange can handle more power as well and im looking for good power handling. My only question is whether the 8's will be too muddy in the higher fz before the tweeter takes over, or will it sound fine in the range they will be crossed?(Thinking 5,000 @12db or so)

If you are going to do that, you need to run a 3-way setup, you will need a dedicated midbass 4' or something close to that size to cover from about 1000-6000hz, trying to play an 8' woofer that high will tear it up

 

[Bwap]

If you are going to do that, you need to run a 3-way setup, you will need a dedicated midbass 4' or something close to that size to cover from about 1000-6000hz, trying to play an 8' woofer that high will tear it up

Did you mean 4" midrange?

Anyway, it is an 8" midrange that I am looking to install, I already have 8" mid-bass in my rear deck.

Does anyone have any experience crossing 8" midrange high?

 

[logan963 10+ year member]

Did you mean 4" midrange?
Anyway, it is an 8" midrange that I am looking to install, I already have 8" mid-bass in my rear deck.

Does anyone have any experience crossing 8" midrange high?

mid range and midbass are the same thing..

 

[Bwap]

mid range and midbass are the same thing..

Sorry, but please don't offer advice on something you obviously don't fully understand. Yes there is a difference between mid-range and mid-bass.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

mid range and midbass are the same thing..

No

 

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Sorry, but please don't offer advice on something you obviously don't fully understand. Yes there is a difference between mid-range and mid-bass.

Move the mid bass to the front where it supposed to be.

 

[Bwap]

No 

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Move the mid bass to the front where it supposed to be.

Hmm it would be very difficult the way things are mounted already, its in a Volvo so things are tight and I silicone everything.. also the 8" midbass in the read deck have boxes for them.

Wouldn't it be better to have the midrange in the front anyway for better blending with the tweeters?

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Any input on the original question would be appreciated.

If the 8 is a real mid it's fine. Just make sure the freq response is as high as you need. But really.. Move the mid bass to the front.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

get a pro audio midrange. Look for something with a demodulating ring to control inductance if you don't want it to be muddy, a phase plug would also be nice, but not required by any means. Pyle has an 8 that has both and it's 4ohm and doesn't sound bad at all. If you want to spend a little more then try a B&C driver, they almost all have rings.

 

[Bwap]

Hmm it would be very difficult the way things are mounted already, its in a Volvo so things are tight and I silicone everything.. also the 8" midbass in the read deck have boxes for them.
Wouldn't it be better to have the midrange in the front anyway for better blending with the tweeters?

I edited my post after I saw you edited yours lol..

 

[Bwap]

get a pro audio midrange. Look for something with a demodulating ring to control inductance if you don't want it to be muddy, a phase plug would also be nice, but not required by any means. Pyle has an 8 that has both and it's 4ohm and doesn't sound bad at all. If you want to spend a little more then try a B&C driver, they almost all have rings.

oo thanks, ill definitely take a look at B&C.. I am looking for SQ, I hear Pyle isn't the best.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I edited my post after I saw you edited yours lol..

You want 100hz and up in front of you. That's how you get the illusion of up front bass.

 

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oo thanks, ill definitely take a look at B&C.. I am looking for SQ, I hear Pyle isn't the best.

Rainbow has a nice 7 inch mid range.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

https://www.woofersetc.com/p-7467-w-175-power-power-cs-69-midwoofer.aspx

 

[Bwap]

You want 100hz and up in front of you. That's how you get the illusion of up front bass. 

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Rainbow has a nice 7 inch mid range.

Hmm I like the look of rainbow they look like good quality.

Does the fact I have the 8's facing up boxed and the 12's facing forward, sealed off from the trunk help with the illusion of up front bass?

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Hmm I like the look of rainbow they look like good quality.
Does the fact I have the 8's facing up boxed and the 12's facing forward, sealed off from the trunk help with the illusion of up front bass?

No sorry. A good mid bass does not have to be enclosed. A good sealed door or kick pod is what they want. They get punchy and want to act like subs when they are in a box. Where you planning on putting the new 8s in the doors? If so you can seal it up good and put the mid bass there. Put a nice 6.5 in the kick or 3.5 in a pillar pod.