$200 amps

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

I just don't see you being happy with purchasing a new amp with out actually hearing much/if any difference at all.

 

[SMS 10+ year member]

I understand, i thought the AQ would make them sound a little cleaner

Thanks

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

ap1500s do rated its been proven many times . they get their bad name because no one has the electrical to back it. now to answer the question

the AQ will do 1400x1@1 ohm. so if you have it to spend go at it. but you will still need to upgrade your electrical a bit

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

ap1500s do rated its been proven many times . they get their bad name because no one has the electrical to back it. now to answer the question
the AQ will do 1400x1@1 ohm. so if you have it to spend go at it. but you will still need to upgrade your electrical a bit

The AP will do rated after clipping starts. It has actually been proven. Has nothing to do with the lack of electrical.

Also the AQ will not do 1400 clean.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

The AP will do rated after clipping starts. It has actually been proven. Has nothing to do with the lack of electrical.
Also the AQ will not do 1400 clean.

Output Power 14.4V @ 5% THD 1470X1 @ 1 ohm

/\ thats from AQs website and ive seen better out of them

the AP on one of SMD's dd1's can do 1200 before distortion at 1.5 reactive. i dont know why some of these topics get touchy. we have all seen different from different setups and owning them. im just voicing my opinion and experience

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Output Power 14.4V @ 5% THD 1470X1 @ 1 ohm /\ thats from AQs website and ive seen better out of them

the AP on one of SMD's dd1's can do 1200 before distortion at 1.5 reactive. i dont know why some of these topics get touchy. we have all seen different from different setups and owning them. im just voicing my opinion and experience

AQ's won't touch 1400 clean sorry. I have tested a ton(around 40 or so) of them while I worked there haha.

Not touchy or upset, just hate the whole "AP's do rated" conversations. Even if one of them did managed to do rated power before clipping it is less likely that others well. Their qc practices are very poor.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

AQ's won't touch 1400 clean sorry. I have tested a ton(around 40 or so) of them while I worked there haha.
Not touchy or upset, just hate the whole "AP's do rated" conversations. Even if one of them did managed to do rated power before clipping it is less likely that others well. Their qc practices are very poor.

understood. but you have to think. how many people have gotten rated out of ap? and how many havent? and also the variables are so high when touching the whole ''rated'' number that its only up to personal experience instead of opinions. if he is worried the 1500 wont do rated the 1800 will do better power than the aq and be cleaner . feel free to school me im always up for learning

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

understood. but you have to think. how many people have gotten rated out of ap? and how many havent? and also the variables are so high when touching the whole ''rated'' number that its only up to personal experience instead of opinions. if he is worried the 1500 wont do rated the 1800 will do better power than the aq and be cleaner . feel free to school me im always up for learning

I think if he wants to have an amp that will do rated and cleanly his best bet is to go much larger in size. Thus allowing for head room later and ensuring he has the power he wants right now. I can think of a few 2k@1ohm amps that fit the bill.

I agree that what you get out of your amp if tested in a car setting is subjective to each specific application. As for as who has tested what and got what, I have seen more testing showing power from AP amps but most of them never show a scope on them to verify the wave. From playing with them on a test bench I found that there is a reason they cost so much less then anything else.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

I think if he wants to have an amp that will do rated and cleanly his best bet is to go much larger in size. Thus allowing for head room later and ensuring he has the power he wants right now. I can think of a few 2k@1ohm amps that fit the bill.
I agree that what you get out of your amp if tested in a car setting is subjective to each specific application. As for as who has tested what and got what, I have seen more testing showing power from AP amps but most of them never show a scope on them to verify the wave. From playing with them on a test bench I found that there is a reason they cost so much less then anything else.

your dsc1500 would do him very well.

and on the testing part.

when i do any of my test i go to the local audio shop. they have some nice handhelds. thats where i clamped my ap.

i only saw about 800@2.2 ohms reactive . (keep in mind im dropping to 12v) and the scope was fine until i bumped it up to 850. then it was a clip . very fine line

now when i threw 2 YT's in there and held 14v the whole time i was seeing 944@2.2 reactive not too far from rated. and again i bump the gains up to 1k and see a clip.

very fine line in these amps. but i have faith in them if you got juice. if not ill reccomend maxxsonics amps like the dsc series or brz . but im sure in others experiences where they didnt have an o-scope they were seeing 40000000 watts and clipping them to death. hell i cant hear a clip unless im in the port so its easy to get confused with reliable test and un reliable. the proof also lies in their efficiency (70%@1 ohm and best at 4 ohm is 80%) tells you it will take alot of power to put it out

 

[Dirtrider4eva 10+ year member]

ahh...Aqs easily do rated and then some... i own two... they dont preform identical, but dropping to 13.2V at 50hz tone, 2.4ohms, yeilded 67 amps...

and about 70 amps on my second one.

so i got 924 watts at 2.4 ohms at 13.2V,

and i got 884 watts at 2.4 ohms at 13.2V on my second.

(Rated at 14.4 870 watts at 2 ohms)

I have them strapped.

now at 14.4V, and a true 1 ohm load, it will easily do over rated....

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

ahh...Aqs easily do rated and then some... i own two... they dont preform identical, but dropping to 13.2V at 50hz tone, 2.4ohms, yeilded 67 amps...and about 70 amps on my second one.

so i got 924 watts at 2.4 ohms at 13.2V,

and i got 884 watts at 2.4 ohms at 13.2V on my second.

(Rated at 14.4 870 watts at 2 ohms)

I have them strapped.

now at 14.4V, and a true 1 ohm load, it will easily do over rated....

They can do over rated, however, not a at a ton past rated while clean.

What is funny is that no matter what anyone says it is always wrong around here. Forget that I worked there and tested over half the amps that were in stock at that time haha. I tested everything from the 750 to the 20k.

 

[Dirtrider4eva 10+ year member]

The funny thing is that it was clean power... With gains at 1/3 and no bass boost or other enhancers. Now sure theirs vsriability. But 5%thd will never get noticed in subs. when i owned a hifonics 1k 5 chan and saz 1k, the sub side sounded no difference... Nothing got warm..

 

[Chriszle 10+ year member]

You can get a refurb Sundown SAX-1200 from db-r for ~175 plus shipping on sale now for black friday.