the mb quart and the crunch are both good amps for the money. the sundown is a superior amp for one it is a zenon design for two the customer service. enough said.
zenon design? I hear of more of these things breaking then any mb quart, or crunch amp combined. I don't care if they are made of gold. It won't put out more power then the mb quart or gp3000d. end of discussion. sundown is overpriced waste of money.
misfit138
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So, not only are you stupid, but you're a liar too. Awesome.
misfit138
5,000+ posts
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Zenon > Maxxsonics
you're an IDIOT.com
Seriously everytime you open your trap you show what a dumbass you are
do some research and show some numbers, or shut the hell up.
You are the worst troll ever, and that isn't a good thing, you **** at a being a troll
hey dumbass, what qualifications do you have to be making any kind of judgements? Seriously who the **** are you? you obviously have no real practical experiance. I shows greatly!
well i would like to see you run your crunch or mb quart at .25 ohms and lets see the magic smoke. that is running the subs in tubes so very little imp rise. my zenon design amps have been running like that for 2 years flawlessly. ( o and i forgot to say i will spank your a$$ with my zenon design amps every day of the week. lets see your crunch post a 158.5 w/ pr of 12s and hold iasca stock pro 1 north american championship)
misfit138
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You have quite a way to go before you'll be able to teach me anything about car audio, stupid.
wrong again, stupid.
aeroportspwn
10+ year member
mmmm aeroports
lmao
That is exactly the problem with your arguments. You provide no reason why sundown is better than the 2 amps mentioned. You just call someone names. You act like a little ***** kid when someone talks shit about something you don't like. Customer service doesn't make the actual amp better. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif It makes the hassle of returning a blown amp easier. Luck thing for me, I don't chase numbers and blow my amps. I'd like to have some hearing left when I'm 40.
misfit138
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The reasons have been posted several times, but you're too stupid or stubborn to notice.
(1.) Zenon amplifiers can safely handle ohm loads that would destroy lesser equipment.
(2.) Many companies that sell these amplifiers offer transferable warranties.
(3.) Zenon amplifiers have great resale value.
(4.) The amps are affordable considering their build quality, reliability and reputation.
(5.) Zenon amplifiers produce more than rated, cleanly.
And yes, customer service is very important. If you drop $500+ on an amplifier that arrives DOA or has issues, you'll want a replacement with minimal hassle.
The zenon amps are built like tanks and their reputation is well deserved. But I'm not calling the Discus or Ground Pounder series' junk, stupid. If you care to take a look, I'm constantly recommending the dsc amps to people on a budget. Pretty much on a daily basis. But the fact remains; If you can afford the extra cash, Zenon is a better option. Simple as that. Once you get a little more experience you'll learn things like this.
And for the record, I call you names because you constantly spew stupidity. Stop saying stupid shit in every single post and I'll show you some respect. A prime example of the stupidity is your statement about chasing numbers and not wanting to damage your hearing. Why run a 3,000 watt subwoofer if you don't care about getting loud? Why say "Cadence is the best because they hold such & such records in db drag" and then turn around and preach about retaining your hearing. It's fucking ignorance, man. Educate yourself on topics before chiming in with redundant, meaningless bullshit over & over...
(1.) Zenon amplifiers can safely handle ohm loads that would destroy lesser equipment.
(2.) Many companies that sell these amplifiers offer transferable warranties.
(3.) Zenon amplifiers have great resale value.
(4.) The amps are affordable considering their build quality, reliability and reputation.
(5.) Zenon amplifiers produce more than rated, cleanly.
And yes, customer service is very important. If you drop $500+ on an amplifier that arrives DOA or has issues, you'll want a replacement with minimal hassle.
The zenon amps are built like tanks and their reputation is well deserved. But I'm not calling the Discus or Ground Pounder series' junk, stupid. If you care to take a look, I'm constantly recommending the dsc amps to people on a budget. Pretty much on a daily basis. But the fact remains; If you can afford the extra cash, Zenon is a better option. Simple as that. Once you get a little more experience you'll learn things like this.
And for the record, I call you names because you constantly spew stupidity. Stop saying stupid shit in every single post and I'll show you some respect. A prime example of the stupidity is your statement about chasing numbers and not wanting to damage your hearing. Why run a 3,000 watt subwoofer if you don't care about getting loud? Why say "Cadence is the best because they hold such & such records in db drag" and then turn around and preach about retaining your hearing. It's fucking ignorance, man. Educate yourself on topics before chiming in with redundant, meaningless bullshit over & over...
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