I hear ya..Buying new, they come with a warranty as well, do keep the boxes, and all the info, or the warranty will void if not all back in same box ect??There may still be some one on here..Patience.. it took me approx 3months to locate the discontinued subs I was looking for-Audiobahn Aw1008t 10in 100rms 2ohmDVC.But instead of used, I found a pair of new! $140 each shipped, and new they were like $289 plus shipping!!!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif