1 sub or 2 subs?

[c_hayhurst 10+ year member]

I have a Ford Taurus with a 12" Resonant Engineering SE series subwoofer, running at 700W RMS in a ported enclosure manufactured to the manufacturer's specs ~3 cubic feet, IIRC. It is quite loud, but I can't help but wonder if I were to get two 350W RMS subs and run them, if they would sound as loud, or louder than my current setup? For comparison's sake, running two 10" or 12" Alpine Type R's at 350W RMS versus my current 12" at 700W RMS.

Any ideas?

I sure as hell don't want to run out and pay for such a costly little experiment if others have already gone down this path, don't ya know...

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[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

don't think you would really gain, considering the r's work better with more then 500 watts, plus you would need to build a hole new enclosure

 

[creyc 10+ year member]

It will be 3dB louder I think.

Group delay will also be a factor now, and you'll need 2x as big a box. :\

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

It will be 3dB louder I think.

not necessarily. if i go from one XXX 12 to 2 boss 12's, will I gain 3db? Don't think so.

 

[89Vette 10+ year member]

I think it would be louder... not with the type r's since they would be underpowered but with something else...

I have asked this same ? before and got something like "you're moving more air because you're pushing more sq. feet of area... 2 12's vs. 1 12"

don't know if that helps though...

or if it's accurate...

 

[DeuceLee 10+ year member]

as far as spl goes, 1 r 12 with 700 should b as loud if not louder then the se, but may not sound as good...

if u wanna consider 2 r's, get a 2k watt amp and dat bish should fly

 

[Raven 10+ year member]

Theoretically, the gain is 3dB IIRC. I don't think anyone in their right mind would replace and RE SE with an Alpine Type R though.

I feel your pain - I drive a Taurus myself.

 

[c_hayhurst 10+ year member]

I feel your pain - I drive a Taurus myself.

$3000 in repairs and counting on a 1999 Taurus with 79,000 miles, after ownig it for 2.5 years!

That and the speaker box only leaves about 12" of storage space in my trunk. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

 

[GeeTEye 10+ year member]

What about........

(1) 12" woofer with 600 watts RMS ( lets say JL12w7 run off of a PPI A600.2) Vs..... (2) 12w3's run off of a PPI A300.2. Both in spec ported boxes in the same car?? I have less cone but I'm pushing the single at twice as hard. Anyone tried anything like this? Pro's please help

 

[c_hayhurst 10+ year member]

Woah, woah, woah...

(that's three "woah"'s)

I use a ported enclosure now for one sub at 700W which fills almost my entire trunk. Could I go with a sealed enclosure on two 12" subs at 350W each and free up a bunch more space without sacrificing loudness/sound quality?

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Theoretically, the gain is 3dB IIRC.

That is ONLY if comparing identical subs.

It doesn't hold true, even in theory, when comparing 1 sub X to 2 sub Y's.

 

[wilzyx 5,000+ posts]

Theoretically, the gain is 3dB IIRC. I don't think anyone in their right mind would replace and RE SE with an Alpine Type R though.
I feel your pain - I drive a Taurus myself.

as do i, mine has been very reliable though but those trunks are dam hard to get loud! do you think taking out the 5x7's in the rear deck would help to get the cabin louder?

 

[Raven 10+ year member]

I pulled out the rear 6x8s AND that cardboard insulation a long time ago, I don't remember the difference, I do know that you have to cover backside of the rear seat or that yellow padding will powder off and get all over everything. (I used box carpet)

Also, I have put almost no money into my 92 Taurus with 165k miles. Must be a thing about the new ones.

 

[creyc 10+ year member]

not necessarily. if i go from one XXX 12 to 2 boss 12's, will I gain 3db? Don't think so.

Er, forgot to mention they have to be identical other than the size. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[luvinthebass 5,000+ posts]

Taurus trunks are hard to get loud in, i took out my 6 x 8 rear speakers too and even with 600 watts goin to my 12' kicker cvr it's not as loud as it was in my 93 grand am, now that car trunk would get loud!