BrazilianBassBuster
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Many years ago, while driving my car, I had the most incredible bass experience among all of my experiments. Surprisingly, I was using just two 10-inch speakers. One was in a BP6 box placed at the back seat and tuned close to 20 Hz, while the other was in a ported enclosure placed at the trunk and tuned around 30 Hz. That system wasn't really designed to work so well. But it seems like the car was doing something special.
More than special, it felt magical. The bass was so deep that I could hear the rattling of the aluminum garage doors from the surrounding buildings, which were about ten meters away from the car.
I know every car promotes a bass gain of 12 dB/oct gain below a certain frequency, around 70 Hz, but something else was going on. When I opened the front windows, the sound felt especially deep and reinforced around 20 Hz. I tested opening all four windows, but that wasn't as good as opening just one or two of the front windows.
So now I realize that the car itself was working as a ported enclosure and I was sitting inside it, with my years in between the two enclosure's ports. Looking at the above image carefully, we can notice that the door space has a depth of a few centimeters, around 15 cm perhaps, with flared ends on the inside and outside part.
Then it makes sense when you look at the Helmholtz resonator formula, which correlates the port area (A) and length (L) to the enclosure's volume (V) and tuning frequency (f). Because this is calculated independently of the loudspeaker being used:
I was in a Volkswagen Gol car, which is a small and compact hatch car. I can estimate its dimensions as:
With that data, I can verify that a single open window will work as a port tuned to 23.1 Hz and two windows will tune to 27.6 Hz.
So I was thinking... If I made an infinite baffle setup in the car, then it would actually sound like a ported enclosure, instead.
The idea is to cut a round hole in the spare tire's well and place a big driver there. Perhaps not just one but the three AE IB15 drivers I have. I could mount them in a cozy mainfold. This is something I had been thinking about for many years, but I'm now more encouraged since others have already done it (see post):
My target car is now a station wagon model that must have around 3000 liters of internal space. Using WinISD, I simulated the 3 drivers in a 3000 sealed box, which tunes to 24 Hz. Then, I also simulated a ported box with 1 window open and 2 windows open. With one window it tunes into 17,2 Hz and with two windows tune to 24.3 Hz. Those are the results:
With just 100 w for each driver, the system has a reference level of 118 dB, with the one-window ported peaking +2.7 dB at 20-30 Hz and the two-window ported peaking at +8 dB at 26.7 Hz. All simulations use a highpass filter at 15 Hz to keep the cone excursion within bounds (18 mm for each driver).
Yes, I know the car is as rigid as a box should be, so it's not a sturdy ported box, but I'm guessing the actual results would stay in between one of those three simulations. Does that seem right?
Has anyone had that same experience before?
More than special, it felt magical. The bass was so deep that I could hear the rattling of the aluminum garage doors from the surrounding buildings, which were about ten meters away from the car.
I know every car promotes a bass gain of 12 dB/oct gain below a certain frequency, around 70 Hz, but something else was going on. When I opened the front windows, the sound felt especially deep and reinforced around 20 Hz. I tested opening all four windows, but that wasn't as good as opening just one or two of the front windows.
So now I realize that the car itself was working as a ported enclosure and I was sitting inside it, with my years in between the two enclosure's ports. Looking at the above image carefully, we can notice that the door space has a depth of a few centimeters, around 15 cm perhaps, with flared ends on the inside and outside part.
Then it makes sense when you look at the Helmholtz resonator formula, which correlates the port area (A) and length (L) to the enclosure's volume (V) and tuning frequency (f). Because this is calculated independently of the loudspeaker being used:
L = [c²× A] / [4π²× f²× V] - 0.85×√A
or
f = (c/2π) × √(A/(V × (L + 0.85×√A)))
where c is the speed of sound (usually 343 m/s) and 0.85 is the constant for a double-flared port
I was in a Volkswagen Gol car, which is a small and compact hatch car. I can estimate its dimensions as:
- Internal volume: 2500 m³
- Window cross-sectional area: 35x45 = 3150 cm² each
- Window depth: 15 cm
With that data, I can verify that a single open window will work as a port tuned to 23.1 Hz and two windows will tune to 27.6 Hz.
So I was thinking... If I made an infinite baffle setup in the car, then it would actually sound like a ported enclosure, instead.
The idea is to cut a round hole in the spare tire's well and place a big driver there. Perhaps not just one but the three AE IB15 drivers I have. I could mount them in a cozy mainfold. This is something I had been thinking about for many years, but I'm now more encouraged since others have already done it (see post):
My target car is now a station wagon model that must have around 3000 liters of internal space. Using WinISD, I simulated the 3 drivers in a 3000 sealed box, which tunes to 24 Hz. Then, I also simulated a ported box with 1 window open and 2 windows open. With one window it tunes into 17,2 Hz and with two windows tune to 24.3 Hz. Those are the results:
With just 100 w for each driver, the system has a reference level of 118 dB, with the one-window ported peaking +2.7 dB at 20-30 Hz and the two-window ported peaking at +8 dB at 26.7 Hz. All simulations use a highpass filter at 15 Hz to keep the cone excursion within bounds (18 mm for each driver).
Yes, I know the car is as rigid as a box should be, so it's not a sturdy ported box, but I'm guessing the actual results would stay in between one of those three simulations. Does that seem right?
Has anyone had that same experience before?
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