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[Old_Slapper]

This is what happens when you raise minimum wages.

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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That statement was so stupid!

Abortion is killing a human. Argue this, and you will lose! Are you allowed to kill yourself? Why not? aren't you allowed to do what you want with your body? I didn't want to get vaccinated. Am I not allowed to do what I want with my body?

Nobody dies after taking viagra.

I do have say claiming abortion is killing a human isn't black and white. However, in Colorado for example, we allow abortion at any point in time. Once we hit 35 weeks for example, I don't think anybody can make a credible case that we're not dealing with a human. 3 weeks - it's not so clear.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I do have say claiming abortion is killing a human isn't black and white. However, in Colorado for example, we allow abortion at any point in time. Once we hit 35 weeks for example, I don't think anybody can make a credible case that we're not dealing with a human. 3 weeks - it's not so clear.

So a baby or early ***** or however you wanna call that at 3 weeks isn't a baby, even though it could literally be nothing else? It's not gonna grow into a gator or terminator in there, it's always gonna be a baby. It's not like there's gonna be some surprise after 3 weeks or whenever and it turns out not to be a baby but something else

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Is it? Do we even have an accurate stat to work off for that

It's definitely not a huge percentage and without that qualifier...that'll be Rob's only argument

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Here we go again with your I'm rubber you're glue comebacks and your continued lying. I will also stand by the fact that nerves do not have bones in them. I never claimed that nerves do not have bones in them and that a 2-year degree from extensive anatomy studies proves it. I will say, this is one of your bigger mistakes Rob.

Like I said, you will support your false claim to the death, no matter how much proof is provided that you are wrong. The entire medical industry suports the fact that bones have nerves in them, but YOU know it is not true.

Never claimed it? Are you sure about that? Your memory of your own actions must be pretty poor.

"In college anatomy was a major part of the biology I studied."

Yes, you are laughable every time you post you're comebacks and the lies you post with them. You can't do anything right secretary man.

They are alleged. The left is alleging that Trump lied over 30K times. It's an allegation. You can post all the falsely interpreted statements you want, that doesn't make them lies. I also did present you with one and proved it wasn't a lie but rather an opinion of Trump's wife by Trump. But you keep on truckin' secretary man.

No, they can be verified as having been said. An allegation is not something that is proved, just like a proved fact is not a "theory", like your claim that nerves in hard bone is just a "theory.

Still? As if this is something ongoing with me. Not once has anyone said I needed to admit Trump doesn't know what a tariff is. In fact, nobody can. I don't know what he thinks is the definition of a tariff? Try again secretary man.

You never WOULD admit he is lying about it. You won't even admit what an import tariff really IS, lest it show that he is lying when he claims China, et al, will pay the tariff.

For like the 5th time. The actual importer.

For like the 5th time: Anyone who purchases and receives an item directly from a supplier in another country IS the importer. Taken directly form the CBP website: "When you buy goods from foreign sources, you become the importer. And it is the importer - in this case, YOU - who is responsible for assuring that the goods comply with a variety of both state and federal government import regulations."

Internet Purchases

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

That means I'M the one who pays that tariff on that bike. And when Trump tacks on a 25% addition, that means I'M paying 25% more. And if I decided to Sell, I'M not absorbing that additional expense.

Much like WalMart, Autozone, and any other company whose products will be affected. They have already said they are passing on the costs.

I see... you are one of those guys. "Why do they get to have ice cream but I don't"? So because Trump did something you think the left gets to do it too. Talk about entitled and demanding participation trophies. You really are pathetic.

Except you have it in reverse. Trump already did it, but now you right-wingers are upset that Biden did it.
So it's "Why do they get to have ice cream, now the WE have had some? Why aren't we special, and get to prevent others from having any?"
Talk about entitled and thinking you should get something, but withhold it from others.

The same way you defend Biden and Harris and all their unethical, immoral and unconstitutional actions and behaviors. You know, like killing 13 Americans when they pulled out of Afghanistan. Who did Sleepy Joe and Kumonya Harris apologize to? I guess they are "unburdened by what has been".

I would say that Trump allowing the Taliban to become stronger than they had been in a decade, and not getting the troops out by the time he promised, is what got them killed.
If he had kept his word, there would have been no soldiers there and no soldiers to get killed.

Trump failed to keep his word, and it cost lives.

And who's forcing women to get pregnant? Don't try using **** as your example because that's a negligible percentage of abortions

Negligible doesn't mean nonexistent. Using that to support your argument is a fail.
But can you tell me the relevance of your question? What does it have to do with giving government the authority to tell a person what they can do to their own body?

Wasn't someone just screaming about government involvement/interference when I suggested limiting the income/assets of big business owners? So we can't limit the accumulation of insane wealth on the backs of the US citizen, but it's OK to mandate what a woman does with her own uterus?
That's an interesting dichotomy.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yet another example of the libs doubling down.

Newsom pushing for new port of entry for migrants before Trump - Washington Examiner

While funding for the Otay Mesa East Port of Entry has yet to be finalized, Newsom said contractors have already been selected.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Like I said, you will support your false claim to the death, no matter how much proof is provided that you are wrong. The entire medical industry suports the fact that bones have nerves in them, but YOU know it is not true.

Never claimed it? Are you sure about that? Your memory of your own actions must be pretty poor.
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You may want to go over your post. The one where your mistake was made. I even told you it is one of your bigger mistakes secretary man.

No, they can be verified as having been said. An allegation is not something that is proved, just like a proved fact is not a "theory", like your claim that nerves in hard bone is just a "theory.

The allegation is that they are lies.

You never WOULD admit he is lying about it. You won't even admit what an import tariff really IS, lest it show that he is lying when he claims China, et al, will pay the tariff.

Why are you changing what you said? Why move the goalpost?

For like the 5th time: Anyone who purchases and receives an item directly from a supplier in another country IS the importer. Taken directly form the CBP website: "When you buy goods from foreign sources, you become the importer. And it is the importer - in this case, YOU - who is responsible for assuring that the goods comply with a variety of both state and federal government import regulations."

Internet Purchases

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

That means I'M the one who pays that tariff on that bike. And when Trump tacks on a 25% addition, that means I'M paying 25% more. And if I decided to Sell, I'M not absorbing that additional expense.

Much like WalMart, Autozone, and any other company whose products will be affected. They have already said they are passing on the costs.

Can you not read? I said "The Actual Importer".

Except you have it in reverse. Trump already did it, but now you right-wingers are upset that Biden did it.
So it's "Why do they get to have ice cream, now the WE have had some? Why aren't we special, and get to prevent others from having any?"
Talk about entitled and thinking you should get something, but withhold it from others.

Listen you fake fraud chaser. A law is a law. It is illegal to break the law. You are saying if one side does it then all sides can do it.

I would say that Trump allowing the Taliban to become stronger than they had been in a decade, and not getting the troops out by the time he promised, is what got them killed.
If he had kept his word, there would have been no soldiers there and no soldiers to get killed.

Trump failed to keep his word, and it cost lives.

Of course YOU would say that. You are blind with hatred.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

What does it have to do with giving government the authority to tell a person what they can do to their own body?

The forced people to get a vaccine...and that's just recently...

Still waiting on the 30k evidence...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So the fact checker use percentage of GDP to claim lied? Did Trump say it was a the largest cut based on percentage of GDP? Why is it I suspect this is just twisting the facts/stats to fit an agenda?

I guess if that's the standard normally used to judge tax cuts, then that's the standard Trump should be using when he makes the claim?

But maybe it's one of those "alternative facts" or "alternative definitions" situations. Maybe tax cuts are normally compared to GDP, but Trump is basing his claim on the huge cuts given to certain corporations or entities. He takes the one with the highest cut and considers that the "biggest in history".

Maybe it's the same with his "best economy in history". Perhaps he considers it the best because it was under HIM, even if it was not the best by any standard measures?

You may want to go over your post. The one where your mistake was made. I even told you it is one of your bigger mistakes secretary man.

Point it out. What were the mistakes, sharing snips of your posts that you now deny having made?

The allegation is that they are lies.

It's not an allegation once it is proved, just like it is not a theory once it has been proved.
Your attempt to twist words to make yourself correct never works.

Why are you changing what you said? Why move the goalpost?

Admit Trump is lying when he says China, et al, will pay the import tariff that Trump places on good being imported to the US from those places.

Can you not read? I said "The Actual Importer".

When I buy it and it is shipped here to be received by me, I AM the "Actual Importer". CPB says it VERY clearly:
"When you buy goods from foreign sources, you become the importer. And it is the importer - in this case, YOU - who is responsible for assuring that the goods comply with a variety of both state and federal government import regulations."
https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export/internet-purchases

And please don't waste time trying to spin things with the word "Actual" and some philosophical bullshit like "What is ACTUAL? Can you prove that you exist and are ACTUAL? What is reality?"
Those types of arguments just make you look the fool.

Listen you fake fraud chaser. A law is a law. It is illegal to break the law. You are saying if one side does it then all sides can do it.

If one side does it and it is condoned and allowed, maybe even encouraged, by the supporters of that side, then it is fair game for all.
Don't be a hypocrite and say that what you do is OK, but no one else should be able to do it.
GTFOOH with that "Rules for thee, but not for me" bullshit.

Of course YOU would say that. You are blind with hatred.

Interesting how you always say facts are hatred when they fly in the face of your narrative.
I suppose if you jumped off a roof with the belief that gravity is false, you'd consider it "hatred" by the concrete when your leg snapped and it turned out the existence of gravity is a FACT.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The forced people to get a vaccine...and that's just recently...

Still waiting on the 30k evidence...

OH? WHO exactly was "forced" to get the vaccine?
Show me the evidence.

Why should I waste time posting any more of Trump's lies? You couldn't even show that the FIRST one wasn't a lie.
Show us it wasn't a lie, then you can do the next.
You think you continue to play if you fail in the first elimination round? NOPE.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Point it out. What were the mistakes, sharing snips of your posts that you now deny having made?

I did when I highlighted it in bold. Perhaps you are unaware what bolt print is used for.

It's not an allegation once it is proved, just like it is not a theory once it has been proved.
Your attempt to twist words to make yourself correct never works.

Again, just because you biased people say it has been proved doesn't make it true. You're biased people.

Admit Trump is lying when he says China, et al, will pay the import tariff that Trump places on good being imported to the US from those places.

You are the one who think it is a lie. Am I supposed to just hop on board like all you lefties just because you hate someone?

When I buy it and it is shipped here to be received by me, I AM the "Actual Importer". CPB says it VERY clearly:
"When you buy goods from foreign sources, you become the importer. And it is the importer - in this case, YOU - who is responsible for assuring that the goods comply with a variety of both state and federal government import regulations."
https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export/internet-purchases

And please don't waste time trying to spin things with the word "Actual" and some philosophical bullshit like "What is ACTUAL? Can you prove that you exist and are ACTUAL? What is reality?"
Those types of arguments just make you look the fool.

You are the one all in an uproar. I literally said the actual importer. You are the one who is also assuming YOU have the qualifications and legal knowledge of how to import goods.

If one side does it and it is condoned and allowed, maybe even encouraged, by the supporters of that side, then it is fair game for all.

Which is what you Democrats are doing. Condoning it and allowing it.

Don't be a hypocrite and say that what you do is OK, but no one else should be able to do it.
GTFOOH with that "Rules for thee, but not for me" bullshit.

Oh I will say that. If I am having *** with my wife you are not allowed to do it. See how that works.

Interesting how you always say facts are hatred when they fly in the face of your narrative.
I suppose if you jumped off a roof with the belief that gravity is false, you'd consider it "hatred" by the concrete when your leg snapped and it turned out the existence of gravity is a FACT.

It is a fact that you hate Donald J. Trump. Your 47th elected president.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

It's not an allegation once it is proved, just like it is not a theory once it has been proved.
Your attempt to twist words to make yourself correct never works.

You haven't proven your claim of 30k lies...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Why should I waste time posting any more of Trump's lies? You couldn't even show that the FIRST one wasn't a lie.

Because you said 30,000 as a fact...I don't care about 1, I can show you clips with politicians lying a handful of times in a single interview from both sides of the isle...now back up the 30k you claim is fact or admit you're pushing dem propaganda...

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Did Obama just say he's an election denier?

Just butt hurt because it was too big to rig. Who want to stack the supreme court and do away with the filibuster?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Here, plenty to read. Make sure you read what was said and then the "In Fact" part after. Trump will say something, make a statement or whatever and read how they interpret it after. I read one of Trumps statements about the Mueller report that is factually true and they claim it is not because Mueller used the phrase "may have" but didn't back it up with proof.

Every false claim Donald Trump has made as president

U.S. President Donald Trump has proven uniquely willing to lie, exaggerate and mislead. Here is the Star's list of all his false claims.

projects.thestar.com