Current events discussion

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Hey Rob.
You never gave your personal thoughts on Joe giving Hunter an 11 year blanket pardon without mentioning any specifics. That means Hunter could have killed and sexually assaulted someone and the courts can't punish him for it.

What would you say if Trump did that to one of his family members under the same circumstances?

He'll call you horrible names and lie about you before he admits any of the nightmare Hunter Biden stories.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

He'll call you horrible names and lie about you before he admits any of the nightmare Hunter Biden stories.

Like how he denied the pictures on Hunter's laptop and tried to label you a pedo for giving him the proof he asked for.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Well that's why tariffs on China ain't a bad thing

But raising minimum wage won't move them up because basic expenses will rise at the same rate...so the only ones that actually benefit are the ones collecting taxes

IMHO, it's like if the perfect solution isn't presented, then the solution is flawed. If only life were full of perfect solutions. I'm looking a sub that can meter at 150db off ~300wrms (so I don't have to upgrade my electric). It also needs to be an 8-10" shallow mount sub, and I don't want to sacrifice more than .5 cuft. Have anything for me?

Considering that I suspect that the Mexico & Canada tariffs won't even happen and are only being used as a bargaining chip, there is no logical reason for the left to be bent out of shape over the tariffs. It's astonishing to me that the same libs who claimed tariffs were going to crater the American economy or at the very least not work in turn haven't recognized that the Biden/Harris left those tariffs in place (and they seem to be working). Many of these libs go on TV claiming the Biden economy is great, credit Sleepy Joe with bringing back MFG jobs, etc. Tariffs are just one of many economic tools that have been used for centuries and probably longer. Trump (and BidenCo) clearly see we have a bad trade arrangement with China and it's time to renegotiate.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

IMHO, it's like if the perfect solution isn't presented, then the solution is flawed. If only life were full of perfect solutions. I'm looking a sub that can meter at 150db off ~300wrms (so I don't have to upgrade my electric). It also needs to be an 8-10" shallow mount sub, and I don't want to sacrifice more than .5 cuft. Have anything for me?

Considering that I suspect that the Mexico & Canada tariffs won't even happen and are only being used as a bargaining chip, there is no logical reason for the left to be bent out of shape over the tariffs. It's astonishing to me that the same libs who claimed tariffs were going to crater the American economy or at the very least not work in turn haven't recognized that the Biden/Harris left those tariffs in place (and they seem to be working). Many of these libs go on TV claiming the Biden economy is great, credit Sleepy Joe with bringing back MFG jobs, etc. Tariffs are just one of many economic tools that have been used for centuries and probably longer. Trump (and BidenCo) clearly see we have a bad trade arrangement with China and it's time to renegotiate.

I agree. I think we're at a point where can't keep doing the same things over and over. And if that means trying to go hard with big tariffs...I know I'm willing to adjust my spending habits because at least it seems like a real effort is being made instead of lip service and the same routine over and over

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I think what really scares the Dems is Trump is going to renegotiate our relationships with our allies in the Middle East, Mexico, Canada, NATO. I think that bothers the left on 3 levels. One, they don't want Trump to renegotiate anything due to TDS; no matter what he does or doesn’t do they’ll oppose and hate it because he's Trump. Two, they don't want the GOP/Trump to be able to take credit for anything, even if it's the best thing for America. Three, many people on the left view US as the enemy; they believe America, Capitalism, Western Europeans, etc are to blame for all the world’s ills. This will be a terrifying time for many people on the left. Especially if JD Vance gets elected after Trump's term. Oh wait, Trump is never going to leave office - just ask Rachel Maddow.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Hold the line for Trump to take office so no more puppet libs. Or maybe we should all more libs to get in the supreme court so they can continue to prosecute those who speak against the dems.

I don't think they should "hold the line." The Dems didn't "hold the line" when Trump was on his way out. Futhermore, I don't like the idea of either side stacking the court. Case in point, the stacked USSC overturned Roe v Wade, which was un-necessary and judicial over reach. They could have simply found Jackson v Hobbs was consistent with what the court laid out in Roe v Wade and leave 2 & 3rd trimester abortions to the States.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Case in point, the stacked USSC overturned Roe v Wade, which was un-necessary and judicial over reach.

How many years did congress have to actually pass a law? Instead they chose to campaign on it for the entire time after roe was originally decided...I don't blame the courts one bit. As things stand sending it to the states where citizens actually have more say was the right choice. The democrat party failed by not passing legislation...they would've lost their wedge issue they used for a few decades.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I agree. I think we're at a point where can't keep doing the same things over and over. And if that means trying to go hard with big tariffs...I know I'm willing to adjust my spending habits because at least it seems like a real effort is being made instead of lip service and the same routine over and over

There is no reason to believe we'll "go hard with big tariffs." How much do we really need to tariff China to get them to open up their markets and/or get manufacturing to return to the US? Furthermore, remember we opened up trade with China the idea was that we were building up a bilateral trade partner and creating an economy that would could both import from and export to. It's time for China to live up the "export to" part of the agreement or they can no longer have the advantages of having relatively unfettered access to the US economy.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

There is no reason to believe we'll "go hard with big tariffs." How much do we really need to tariff China to get them to open up their markets and/or get manufacturing to return to the US? Furthermore, remember we opened up trade with China the idea was that we were building up a bilateral trade partner and creating an economy that would could both import from and export to. It's time for China to live up the "export to" part of the agreement or they can no longer have the advantages of having relatively unfettered access to the US economy.

By hard on the tariffs I was more referring to the threat since I don't see Canada or Mexico wanting to take that kind of hit to gdp...with China I'm for big tariffs actually being put in place. There's other countries that a far more "friendly" with the US that could produce cheap crap that everyone seems to want

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Hydroponic tomato. Mexico. Pretty much flavorless.
If we can do it better, why aren't we?

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Greenhouse doesn't mean it was grown hydroponically.

You want me to name a thing Kamala did that makes me upset? OK: She went too easy on Trump int he debate. She should have ripped him to shreds like a piranha, using everything bad about him AGAINST him.
Every tome he lied, she should have just shouted "liar" over his voice, the way he felt a need to talk over her.
She shoukd have campaigned 3x as hard as she did.

Good?
OK, now get off your chest what you want to say you disliked that she did.

It's hard to criticize something Kamala did when she's done nothing. Assuming she was the one really running the show as Sleepy Joe slept at the wheel, I don't like her border policy, but I am willing to give her credit for not overturning Trump tariffs.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

"The FBI estimated in its report that the annual cost to the U.S. economy of counterfeit goods, pirated software, and theft of trade secrets is between $225 billion and $600 billion."

Chinese hackers took trillions in intellectual property from about 30 multinational companies

"We're talking about Blueprint diagrams of fighter jets, helicopters, and missiles," Cybereason CEO Lior Div told CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

Trade imbalance aside...just ip theft alone by China affects our economic growth and national security

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Hey Rob,
This is your great President that you worship so much. I bet he makes you so proud!

Trump forgot what he was doing at his own rally and just swayed to music for 30 minutes. he dozed off during a campaign even in Michigan, he nodded off multiple times across several days at his own court trials.
Is this yet another glass house you are throwing stones in?

Like how he denied the pictures on Hunter's laptop and tried to label you a pedo for giving him the proof he asked for.

Nope. Never denied them, and I never asked Buck to share the pedo **** he had on his computer.
Get your facts straight, liar.

Hey Rob.
You never gave your personal thoughts on Joe giving Hunter an 11 year blanket pardon without mentioning any specifics. That means Hunter could have killed and sexually assaulted someone and the courts can't punish him for it.

What would you say if Trump did that to one of his family members under the same circumstances?

I said if it's good for the goose, then it has to be good for the gander.
I haven't complained about Trump's pardons until the right started bitching about Biden's pardon OF HIS OWN SON, when they never complained about Trump's pardons of so many of his business associates/sycophants.

So make up your mind: Do you want a POTIS to have the authority, or not?
It can't be OK for a Republican, but bad for a Democrat.
So, pick one.

BTW - You claim that you "explained" tariffs and the economy to me. I can't find where you "explained" who pays an import tariff on goods, and how that will force another country to do our bidding.
Can you do that? Two other guys have failed so far.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

"The FBI estimated in its report that the annual cost to the U.S. economy of counterfeit goods, pirated software, and theft of trade secrets is between $225 billion and $600 billion."

Chinese hackers took trillions in intellectual property from about 30 multinational companies

"We're talking about Blueprint diagrams of fighter jets, helicopters, and missiles," Cybereason CEO Lior Div told CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

Trade imbalance aside...just ip theft alone by China affects our economic growth and national security

China is electronically running a train on us. The UN and world order forces want the world to be more economically equal, because that allows that global blueprint to work. The US is particularly targeted. Make everybody effectively poor but you'll own nothing and be happy

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Greenhouse doesn't mean it was grown hydroponically.

That's true, but I tend to keep any evidence I offer consistent with what I am trying to prove.
Sunset is a hydroponic grower in Mexico. They distribute through WalMart.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

China is definitely gonna beat us now...