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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Guess that’s what happens when you think you can do whatever you want with impunity, huh?

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How could Giuliani have possibly done $148 million in damages to 2 people? What justifies that high of a number?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

How could Giuliani have possibly done $148 million in damages to 2 people? What justifies that high of a number?

The same thing that justifies someone paying $5,000,000 for a used baseball, or one family getting $100,00 for the wrongful death of a family member, while another gets $2,000,000.
It's an arbitrary value assigned by and agreed upon by people.

Unless you know of a price guide that lists what the payout should be?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The same thing that justifies someone paying $5,000,000 for a used baseball, or one family getting $100,00 for the wrongful death of a family member, while another gets $2,000,000.
It's an arbitrary value assigned by and agreed upon by people.

Unless you know of a price guide that lists what the payout should be?

That's my point is it's a weaponized made up number. Doesn't seem fair whatsoever when somebody has to pay out for hurting feelings. Marxism at its finest.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

He didn't call for anyone to take action against them. I don't think he should've said what he said, but the response is absurd, and the money these people were paid makes no sense. These people aren't worth that much in any form, just magically make these money numbers up, and a blue haired, left wing judge defaulted him, so hardly a fair trial. I'm not arguing that he should've or shouldn't have been sued, the way it was done is ridiculous, and they basically act like jones did sandy hook, it's absurd. Alex Jones literally said words people didn't like, and you should look at all what else that whole sandy hook like funding group has done. They went after Remington as well, which makes as much sense as banning planes because they were used in 9/11. Big pharma never gets sued every time someone on a SSRI shoots up a school, do they? No, because they're approved by the state, unlike Alex Jones. They want to come after free speech and guns, this lawyer group, the 1st and 2nd amendments.

Tragedies can't be used to emotionally manipulate people to violate our rights, period. Sandy hook lawyer team is blazing through disrespecting the constitution through our hijacked court systems. They just needed some reason to try to shut infowars down, so they used this.

Once again, nobody died because of jones, and there was no crime committed by jones, and Alex Jones didn't call for any harassment or violence, he just stated his opinion on the matter. How in the f*ck do these people deserve that much money? Once again, Alex Jones literally gave his incorrect opinion about the event. He didn't make anybody do anything, but he's basically being blamed for everyone's problems. It doesn't make sense and your logic is broken if you think it does. He shouldn't have said what he said, especially the way he said it, but it's absurd to act like he's some dude who spent all his time targeting families and directing people to attack them, it's absolutely horseshit, because I listened to him throughout that entire thing. People get so emotionally manipulated. Maybe if the media and gov didn't use every school shooting to try to push gun control, where they stage news confrences and coach the parents and cover the whole event to get that maximum boohoo factor for the news, then people wouldn't question so much. There's too many weak people who want to give up rights to feel safe.

Slander is a crime and there is no doubt that Jones committed slander. There is also no doubt that Jones caused these people harm. I'd be happy to see them go after the people who pissed on graves and issued threats (maybe they did). In a court case there are actual damages and punitive damages. I don't know how one measures the damage done by pissing on a child's grave or receiving calls telling you that your dead wife never actually existed. Luckily, I didn't have to make that decision, a jury of Alex Jones' peers made that decision.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Tell me how the f*ck 1.5 billion dollars or $55 million makes any sense:

"Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' latest bankruptcy plan would pay Sandy Hook families a minimum total of $55 million over 10 years, a fraction of the $1.5 billion awarded to the relatives in lawsuits against Jones for calling the 2012 Newtown school shooting a hoax."

Alex Jones said something was a hoax, and that's -1.5 billion dollars for him. Do you really think that sounds right? You think there might be a little unfair targeting there?

Yeah I totally think it was unfair of Jones to target the Sandy Hook families and a jury of Alex Jones' peers agree. His lawyer had the opportunity to shape that jury to ensure it was as impartial as Jones' could hope. Unfortunately for Jones, his crime is was heinous that the juries decided to hit him for ~$1.5b. I don't think that "permanent bankruptcy" is out of line. Would you complain about bankrupting Fauci for his exaggerations and lies?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The same thing that justifies someone paying $5,000,000 for a used baseball, or one family getting $100,00 for the wrongful death of a family member, while another gets $2,000,000.
It's an arbitrary value assigned by and agreed upon by people.

Unless you know of a price guide that lists what the payout should be?

There was a price guide of sorts - the juries that heard these cases decided the "fair market value" of Jones' actions. Basically they sentenced him to bankruptcy, which doesn't strike me as completely unreasonable.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Slander is a crime and there is no doubt that Jones committed slander. There is also no doubt that Jones caused these people harm. I'd be happy to see them go after the people who pissed on graves and issued threats (maybe they did). In a court case there are actual damages and punitive damages. I don't know how one measures the damage done by pissing on a child's grave or receiving calls telling you that your dead wife never actually existed. Luckily, I didn't have to make that decision, a jury of Alex Jones' peers made that decision.

Jones was found guilty by the judge, not a jury of his peers. That changed the way the trial proceeded, which didn't seem fair, changed the nature of the trial or the jury's emotional damages and what not.

Yeah I totally think it was unfair of Jones to target the Sandy Hook families and a jury of Alex Jones' peers agree. His lawyer had the opportunity to shape that jury to ensure it was as impartial as Jones' could hope. Unfortunately for Jones, his crime is was heinous that the juries decided to hit him for ~$1.5b. I don't think that "permanent bankruptcy" is out of line. Would you complain about bankrupting Fauci for his exaggerations and lies?

Once again, it's still suspect in totality and no crime was committed. Nothing criminal was done by Jones. I don't understand how Jones gets sued for saying that and tons of other people don't get sued for saying other things. It just doesn't make sense. Seems very targeted because we all know what Jones does and is about and that certain types of people in high levels of power absolutely hate him, so, just saying, keep in mind how big of a target some of these people are like Jones. I don't agree with what he said, but the penalty didn't make sense, literally all he said were words and he's a damn radio show host, lol. That's all he is is a radio show host, idk. I've seen people in media wish for death to politicians and all sorts of madness and never come anywhere close to being subject to these levels of punishment. But hey, that's how the clown world goes.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Guess that’s what happens when you think you can do whatever you want with impunity, huh?

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FoxNews, Giuliani, Alex Jones. "Luckily" politicians wrote a loophole into the laws to exclude themselves.

Some people would have us believe that this only cuts one way or is some new phenomenon....

Nick Sandmann's settlement with CNN was almost public

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CNN Wins Dershowitz Defamation Lawsuit

WASHINGTON — CNN won Tuesday in a defamation lawsuit Harvard Law School Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz filed against the television network for its criticism of his commentaries about then-President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial. The CNN broadcast could lead viewers to conclude Dershowitz...

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JonBenet Ramsey's Brother Settles $750 Million Lawsuit Against CBS

JonBenét Ramsey's brother Burke Ramsey has settled his $750 million defamation lawsuit against CBS over 'The Case Of:' docuseries.

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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Not learn or understand ME, kid.
Learn and understand things like math, spelling, the economy, grammar, etc,

I understand all of these things just fine. The fact that you declare that I do not does not make you correct.

So if I say your clothes are ratty and your clothes are indeed ratty, it's a personal attack?
Cool.

Why don't you comment on the things you are doing and not hypotheticals.

I accept your challenge.
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I don't see any quotation marks around your sentence, nor a citation of the source where you copied it from.
I'd like to collect my $100,000 now. Did you place it in escrow?

You are the most predictable person I have ever engaged in conversations with. I didn't say track down shit I have posted from the internet did I? Nope. You made a comment about a specific post that I made and made the claim that I can copy and paste. You know damn well that is the post we are both talking about. That wasn't even a decent attempt Rob.

Which part is incorrect? It's all stuff you have posted here.
Are you admitting you are a liar?

The incorrect parts are all the parts you are lying about. The things you claim I said but never said.

It's not only a garbage analogy based on a strawman, it has NOTHING to do with the topic.

No way in hell you are paid to prosecute fraud.

Interesting. You seem to lack self control if you think I can bait you. Remember when you tried to put the blame on me for your failure to follow the site rules? Learn some self-control kid.

Did I say I think you can bait me? No, I said are you trying to bait me? You seriously can't hold onto details and you claim to chase fraud.

Are you looking for a definition of free speech? Here:
speech that is protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
also : the right to such speech
The first Amendment? Here: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Notice that there is no indication of the VOLUME of the speech, or the LANGUAGE it is spoken in, or who the SPEAKER is.
Do you REALLY think the right to free speech is about how LOUD you say it?


I don't think it, you have proved it.
MANY posts later, you are still hung up on "yelling" when it comes to discussing free speech.

Yelling FIRE in a crowded theater is NOT free speech and is not protected by the first amendment. When a person yells FIRE in a crowded theater it is to incite fear and cause panic. This can and has led to personal injury and death. It actually falls into the category of terrorism. Now, shut the hell up about it, you are wrong.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

How could Giuliani have possibly done $148 million in damages to 2 people? What justifies that high of a number?

You are arguing with a person who thinks yelling fire in a crowded theater is free speech but having an opinion if you aren't a democrat is worth billions in a court of law some how.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

You are arguing with a person who thinks yelling fire in a crowded theater is free speech but having an opinion if you aren't a democrat is worth billions in a court of law some how.

Lol you're right, Wtf am I doing?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Jones was found guilty by the judge, not a jury of his peers. That changed the way the trial proceeded, which didn't seem fair, changed the nature of the trial or the jury's emotional damages and what not.



Once again, it's still suspect in totality and no crime was committed. Nothing criminal was done by Jones. I don't understand how Jones gets sued for saying that and tons of other people don't get sued for saying other things. It just doesn't make sense. Seems very targeted because we all know what Jones does and is about and that certain types of people in high levels of power absolutely hate him, so, just saying, keep in mind how big of a target some of these people are like Jones. I don't agree with what he said, but the penalty didn't make sense, literally all he said were words and he's a damn radio show host, lol. That's all he is is a radio show host, idk. I've seen people in media wish for death to politicians and all sorts of madness and never come anywhere close to being subject to these levels of punishment. But hey, that's how the clown world goes.

He was found guilty of slander, that's a crime. It's not like there is some questions about whether or not Jones committed slander, he clearly outright committed slander and double, tripled and quadrupled down on his lies.

Jury begins deliberations in Alex Jones' Sandy Hook trial

A Connecticut jury has begun deliberations in conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ defamation trial over his calling the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School a hoax.

apnews.com

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has filed for bankruptcy, less than two months after a jury ordered him and his InfoWars parent company to pay nearly $1 billion to the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140349600/alex-jones-bankruptcy

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

He was found guilty of slander, that's a crime. It's not like there is some questions about whether or not Jones committed slander, he clearly outright committed slander and double, tripled and quadrupled down on his lies.

Jury begins deliberations in Alex Jones' Sandy Hook trial

A Connecticut jury has begun deliberations in conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ defamation trial over his calling the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School a hoax.

apnews.com

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has filed for bankruptcy, less than two months after a jury ordered him and his InfoWars parent company to pay nearly $1 billion to the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140349600/alex-jones-bankruptcy

A pathetic attempt to collect money by using their dead family members. These Sandy Hook people should be ashamed. Again, so much for free speech.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

A pathetic attempt to collect money by using their dead family members. These Sandy Hook people should be ashamed. Again, so much for free speech.

Was it pathetic when Alex Jones was making money spreading lies about those same dead family members?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

A pathetic attempt to collect money by using their dead family members. These Sandy Hook people should be ashamed. Again, so much for free speech.

Again, so much for you understanding what freedom of speech is.