Winners only.

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Seems like you have no understanding about what free speech means.

You and Thxone. I wonder if NoName believes you are both the same person.

More personal attacks. Have you figured out or realized what free speech is yet or do you still think yelling in public is free speech?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

After spending time looking at definitions of the word speech from many, many sources nowhere does it say or even come close to associating the word speech with yelling in public.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'd love to see them hunt down the people who made death threats (aka terrorist threats), but I'm not going to shed any tears for Rudy because he certainly bears a good portion of responsibility.

I'd love to see them nail Bush et al to wall for lying about WMD to justify the invasion of Iraq, but that won't happen and is probably protected speech.

Rudy & Alex Jone"s cases don't have anything to with free speech, they slandered people and caused considerable & measurable damage. Those people in turn sued for damages. If you want, you can look up how they calculated the damage the 2 election worked suffered. Rudy shouldn't have spread obvious lies and ruined these people's lives. Alex Jones shouldn't have spread lies and ruined numerous families lives. With great power comes great responsibility and these two bozos greatly abused their power and are being held accountable for their actions. IMHO, more people should be held accountable for the actions.

Jones's case was all about free speech and the show trial judge defaulted him too, and he didn't ruin their lives, this is the emotional bullshit that's taught in Marxism manuals that you see in the fake news all day long. You don't find it strange those persecuted are almost always anti-uniparty gov?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Are you stumped or just mad? What's with the personal attacks?

Stumped by your refusal to learn and understand? Maybe.
That you think facts are personal attacks speaks volumes.

Wages and costs are tied together by a rubber band. When one goes up it will stretch the rubber band then pull the other up to and passed it at a rapid pace. Eventually the cost will continue to increase as the wages fall stagnant breaking the rubber band. Inflation. It is only good for a short time Rob then it will be a problem. Equal and opposite reaction. One affects the other. You live in the past, think in the past and refuse to look to the future or realize cause and effect.

It's good to see you found some information that confirms what I and others have been saying all along, and that you seemed to have refused or failed to understand.
You can copy and paste, but do you actually GET the info?

Here is an example of your mentality. You know that people in the past who have broke the speed limit have gotten tickets but have not gone to jail. You then decide to speed yourself because statistically you will just get a small ticket. However you then hit a pedestrian because you were going to fast to slow down and kill that pedestrian. The point is, just because the past shows one thing doesn't mean you should plan your life based on it.

That analogy is as broken as your brain seems to be at times, and is actually representative of your own life as you have described it to us: You got injured while studying biology as a contracted employee on a military base.
You got a nice settlement and decided it was enough to live on, but you didn't plan ahead for possible and inevitable changes to the economy, cost of living, etc.
You are now angry that the cost of living increased but your "nest egg" didn't increase at the same rate, and you have to work to make up the difference.
You planned your life based on what you got, but failed to think forward.

By the way, your post is a bunch of rambling nonsense.

Pot, meet kettle. Rambling nonsense: "You know that people in the past who have broke the speed limit have gotten tickets but have not gone to jail. You then decide to speed yourself because statistically you will just get a small ticket. However you then hit a pedestrian because you were going to fast to slow down and kill that pedestrian."

It IS funny that you think simple math based on statistics is "rambling nonsense". Part and parcel of your belief that all facts that paint Trump and all other Republicans in a bad light are fabricated or fraudulently modified?

More personal attacks. Have you figured out or realized what free speech is yet or do you still think yelling in public is free speech?

Talking, yelling, whispering, singing, muttering, uttering, blurting, chatting, prattling, orating, rhyming, confabulating, articulating, chewing the fat, slinging the gab, etc, etc, in public are ALL versions of free speech.

The fact you are still hung up on the volume with which something is said really shows you don't understand the right at all.
Take a class.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...**-telegram-channel-glorifying-idf-misconduct

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'm totally down with this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...tion-******-battery-against-children-under-12

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Very not good:

Houthis launch more attacks in Red Sea as U.S. warships head to region

The increased deployments of ships and Houthi attacks come as Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin is slated to travel to the Middle East next week.

www.politico.com

US and Britain say their navies shot down 15 attack drones over the Red Sea

The U.S. military says an American warship shot down 14 suspected attack drones over the Red Sea on Saturday.

apnews.com

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Stumped by your refusal to learn and understand? Maybe.

I have no desire to learn or understand you. Your way of thinking is flawed. Why would I want to learn to be flawed?

That you think facts are personal attacks speaks volumes.

I think personal attacks are personal attacks. I don't care what kind of false labels you give them.

It's good to see you found some information that confirms what I and others have been saying all along, and that you seemed to have refused or failed to understand.
You can copy and paste, but do you actually GET the info?

This is how I think. It has nothing to do with you or others. You are the one stuck in debate mode. Also, I will give you $100,000 if you can find what you claim I copy and pasted in post #33,242 anywhere on the internet or written text other than what I put on this web site.

That analogy is as broken as your brain seems to be at times, and is actually representative of your own life as you have described it to us: You got injured while studying biology as a contracted employee on a military base.
You got a nice settlement and decided it was enough to live on, but you didn't plan ahead for possible and inevitable changes to the economy, cost of living, etc.
You are now angry that the cost of living increased but your "nest egg" didn't increase at the same rate, and you have to work to make up the difference.
You planned your life based on what you got, but failed to think forward.

Hey look, more personal attacks laced with incorrect information. Are you sure you chase fraud cause you aren't very good at retaining details.

Pot, meet kettle. Rambling nonsense: "You know that people in the past who have broke the speed limit have gotten tickets but have not gone to jail. You then decide to speed yourself because statistically you will just get a small ticket. However you then hit a pedestrian because you were going to fast to slow down and kill that pedestrian."

I am not even remotely close to surprised that this analogy went way over your head.

It IS funny that you think simple math based on statistics is "rambling nonsense". Part and parcel of your belief that all facts that paint Trump and all other Republicans in a bad light are fabricated or fraudulently modified?

Trying to bait me into a Trump discussion so you can talk smack?

Talking, yelling, whispering, singing, muttering, uttering, blurting, chatting, prattling, orating, rhyming, confabulating, articulating, chewing the fat, slinging the gab, etc, etc, in public are ALL versions of free speech.

Cool, show me. Show me the proof, the FACTS that state ALL those things ARE free speech.

The fact you are still hung up on the volume with which something is said really shows you don't understand the right at all.
Take a class.

Keep thinking that.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Jones's case was all about free speech and the show trial judge defaulted him too, and he didn't ruin their lives, this is the emotional bullshit that's taught in Marxism manuals that you see in the fake news all day long. You don't find it strange those persecuted are almost always anti-uniparty gov?

What are talking about Jones didn't ruin their lives?

Mark Barden testified that conspiracy theorists urinated on the grave of his 7-year-old son, Daniel, and threatened to dig up the coffin; Barden and his wife were together awarded about $86 million. Now-retired FBI Agent William Aldenberg, awarded $90 million, described the horror he saw at the school as he responded alongside other law enforcement, and his outrage at seeing online claims that he was an actor.
https://apnews.com/article/shooting...y-alex-jones-3f579380515fdd6eb59f5bf0e3e1c08f
Erica Lafferty, the daughter of slain Sandy Hook principal Dawn Hochsprung, testified that people mailed **** threats to her house.
https://apnews.com/article/shooting...y-alex-jones-3f579380515fdd6eb59f5bf0e3e1c08f
“I wish that after today, I can just be a daughter grieving my mother and stop worrying about the conspiracy theorists,” Lafferty said outside court. But she predicted that Jones’ “hate, lies and conspiracy theories will follow both me and my family through the rest of our days.”
https://apnews.com/article/shooting...y-alex-jones-3f579380515fdd6eb59f5bf0e3e1c08f
To plaintiff William Sherlach, the verdict “shows that the internet is not the wild, wild West, and that your actions have consequences.”
https://apnews.com/article/shooting...y-alex-jones-3f579380515fdd6eb59f5bf0e3e1c08f
He had testified about seeing online posts that falsely posited that the shooting was a hoax; that his slain wife, school psychologist Mary Sherlach, never existed; that he was part of a financial cabal and somehow involved with the school shooter’s father; and more. He told jurors the shooting deniers’ vitriol made him worry for his family’s safety.
https://apnews.com/article/shooting...y-alex-jones-3f579380515fdd6eb59f5bf0e3e1c08f
“Going forward — because, unfortunately, there will be other horrific events like this — people like Alex Jones will have to rethink what they say,” Sherlach said.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I have no desire to learn or understand you. Your way of thinking is flawed. Why would I want to learn to be flawed?

Not learn or understand ME, kid.
Learn and understand things like math, spelling, the economy, grammar, etc,

I think personal attacks are personal attacks. I don't care what kind of false labels you give them.

So if I say your clothes are ratty and your clothes are indeed ratty, it's a personal attack?
Cool.

This is how I think. It has nothing to do with you or others. You are the one stuck in debate mode. Also, I will give you $100,000 if you can find what you claim I copy and pasted anywhere on the internet or written text other than what I put on this web site.

I accept your challenge.

I don't see any quotation marks around your sentence, nor a citation of the source where you copied it from.
I'd like to collect my $100,000 now. Did you place it in escrow?

Hey look, more personal attacks laced with incorrect information. Are you sure you chase fraud cause you aren't very good at retaining details.

Which part is incorrect? It's all stuff you have posted here.
Are you admitting you are a liar?

I am not even remotely close to surprised that this analogy went way over your head.

It's not only a garbage analogy based on a strawman, it has NOTHING to do with the topic.

Trying to bait me into a Trump discussion so you can talk smack?

Interesting. You seem to lack self control if you think I can bait you. Remember when you tried to put the blame on me for your failure to follow the site rules? Learn some self-control kid.

Cool, show me. Show me the proof, the FACTS that state ALL those things ARE free speech.

Are you looking for a definition of free speech? Here:
speech that is protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
also : the right to such speech
The first Amendment? Here: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Notice that there is no indication of the VOLUME of the speech, or the LANGUAGE it is spoken in, or who the SPEAKER is.
Do you REALLY think the right to free speech is about how LOUD you say it?

Keep thinking that.

I don't think it, you have proved it.
MANY posts later, you are still hung up on "yelling" when it comes to discussing free speech.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Jones's case was all about free speech and the show trial judge defaulted him too, and he didn't ruin their lives, this is the emotional bullshit that's taught in Marxism manuals that you see in the fake news all day long. You don't find it strange those persecuted are almost always anti-uniparty gov?

Alex Jones offers to pay Newtown families at least $55 million over school shooting hoax conspiracy

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ latest bankruptcy plan would pay Sandy Hook families a minimum total of $55 million over 10 years

abcnews.go.com

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

What are talking about Jones didn't ruin their lives?

Alex Jones offers to pay Newtown families at least $55 million over school shooting hoax conspiracy

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ latest bankruptcy plan would pay Sandy Hook families a minimum total of $55 million over 10 years

abcnews.go.com

He didn't call for anyone to take action against them. I don't think he should've said what he said, but the response is absurd, and the money these people were paid makes no sense. These people aren't worth that much in any form, just magically make these money numbers up, and a blue haired, left wing judge defaulted him, so hardly a fair trial. I'm not arguing that he should've or shouldn't have been sued, the way it was done is ridiculous, and they basically act like jones did sandy hook, it's absurd. Alex Jones literally said words people didn't like, and you should look at all what else that whole sandy hook like funding group has done. They went after Remington as well, which makes as much sense as banning planes because they were used in 9/11. Big pharma never gets sued every time someone on a SSRI shoots up a school, do they? No, because they're approved by the state, unlike Alex Jones. They want to come after free speech and guns, this lawyer group, the 1st and 2nd amendments.

Tragedies can't be used to emotionally manipulate people to violate our rights, period. Sandy hook lawyer team is blazing through disrespecting the constitution through our hijacked court systems. They just needed some reason to try to shut infowars down, so they used this.

Once again, nobody died because of jones, and there was no crime committed by jones, and Alex Jones didn't call for any harassment or violence, he just stated his opinion on the matter. How in the f*ck do these people deserve that much money? Once again, Alex Jones literally gave his incorrect opinion about the event. He didn't make anybody do anything, but he's basically being blamed for everyone's problems. It doesn't make sense and your logic is broken if you think it does. He shouldn't have said what he said, especially the way he said it, but it's absurd to act like he's some dude who spent all his time targeting families and directing people to attack them, it's absolutely horseshit, because I listened to him throughout that entire thing. People get so emotionally manipulated. Maybe if the media and gov didn't use every school shooting to try to push gun control, where they stage news confrences and coach the parents and cover the whole event to get that maximum boohoo factor for the news, then people wouldn't question so much. There's too many weak people who want to give up rights to feel safe.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Alex Jones offers to pay Newtown families at least $55 million over school shooting hoax conspiracy

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ latest bankruptcy plan would pay Sandy Hook families a minimum total of $55 million over 10 years

abcnews.go.com

Tell me how the f*ck 1.5 billion dollars or $55 million makes any sense:

"Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' latest bankruptcy plan would pay Sandy Hook families a minimum total of $55 million over 10 years, a fraction of the $1.5 billion awarded to the relatives in lawsuits against Jones for calling the 2012 Newtown school shooting a hoax."

Alex Jones said something was a hoax, and that's -1.5 billion dollars for him. Do you really think that sounds right? You think there might be a little unfair targeting there?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Tell me how the f*ck 1.5 billion dollars or $55 million makes any sense:

"Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' latest bankruptcy plan would pay Sandy Hook families a minimum total of $55 million over 10 years, a fraction of the $1.5 billion awarded to the relatives in lawsuits against Jones for calling the 2012 Newtown school shooting a hoax."

Alex Jones said something was a hoax, and that's -1.5 billion dollars for him. Do you really think that sounds right? You think there might be a little unfair targeting there?

Guess that’s what happens when you think you can do whatever you want with impunity, huh?

Maybe some people will start to get the hint.