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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Am I allowed to insult you yet? Fill in all the blanks with previous insults then.

Go right ahead. Maybe threaten me with violence like you did in the past.
Show the mods they have no authority over your actions.
See ya in a few weeks,

I never stated it as grammatically incorrect.
It sounds ignorant.
I stated that it became accepted over time.

"Let me help you as you have just failed in your attempt to call me stupid. To be in a wheelhouse would mean I am in a shelter on a ship. What YOU should have said is it is not my wheelhouse which would refer to my area of expertise."
You attempted to tell me my grammar was wrong, and to offer a correction. But you were incorrect.

An English lesson for you:
grammar - the whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics.
syntax - the arrangement of words and phrases to create well-formed sentences in a language

Your claim that the phrase was not worded correctly is a claim that it is GRAMMATICALLY incorrect.
Do you get a weird thrill from being proved wrong so often?

So what are you arguing exactly? Are you going to tell me how the phrase came to be and why does it connect with an actual wheelhouse? What's the problem. You demand so much but give so little. Pretty one sided there huh Rob.

YOU are the one who decided to avoid the discussions of your uneducated defense of Loy Mauch, your complaints of inflation and your example of the price of Angus beef, and your inability to tell us your solution to make inflation fall faster than it already is.
Instead, you try to correct my grammar, but fall flat on your face in doing so.

So let's get back to those discussions instead of your tangents.
What would you do as POTUS to make inflation drop faster than it is currently dropping?
What was the price of 85/15 Angus ground beef during the Trump presidency, specifically at the stores you named, where you shop?

For extra credit, tell us how this chart that shows an increase int he price of beef during Trump's presidency is wrong.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Go right ahead. Maybe threaten me with violence like you did in the past.
Show the mods they have no authority over your actions.
See ya in a few weeks,

I'm not doin you any favors.

"Let me help you as you have just failed in your attempt to call me stupid. To be in a wheelhouse would mean I am in a shelter on a ship. What YOU should have said is it is not my wheelhouse which would refer to my area of expertise."
You attempted to tell me my grammar was wrong, and to offer a correction. But you were incorrect.

An English lesson for you:
grammar - the whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics.
syntax - the arrangement of words and phrases to create well-formed sentences in a language

Your claim that the phrase was not worded correctly is a claim that it is GRAMMATICALLY incorrect.
Do you get a weird thrill from being proved wrong so often?

No, that is not what I was doing. You're wrong.

YOU are the one who decided to avoid the discussions of your uneducated defense of Loy Mauch, your complaints of inflation and your example of the price of Angus beef, and your inability to tell us your solution to make inflation fall faster than it already is.
Instead, you try to correct my grammar, but fall flat on your face in doing so.

I never defended him. Not sure why you keep saying I was. Inflation is high right now and prices are too. I told you the prices I paid and pay for my 85/15 Angus and truth be told, I don't give a $*%* if you believe it or not. I told you MY solution for inflation and you ignored it. Just because you ignore something doesn't mean it didn't happen Robbie.

So let's get back to those discussions instead of your tangents.

I am not off on tangents. You sure do make a lot of claims about what people are doing and then just run with it don't you.

What would you do as POTUS to make inflation drop faster than it is currently dropping?

Oh so now it is what would I do if I was the President. I am not interested in the job. However I would get Biden out of office and whomever gets in there should do the opposite of Biden.

What was the price of 85/15 Angus ground beef during the Trump presidency, specifically at the stores you named, where you shop?

$4.89lb. at one point.

So you are going back and adding to your post. Tell me how that chart shows I am wrong? It actually shows I am right. When did COVID hit America? Do you think cost for things were not gonna spike? Really? With shut downs and OTR trucks not driving as much? Really, this is your argument. A chart that proves me right? Ok. LOL now show Biden's side of that chart lol.

2019

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I'm not doin you any favors.

No, that is not what I was doing. You're wrong.

I quoted YOUR words, where you did it.
So you're denying you posted those words? Sorry, but that doesn't change history.
Here are your words, quoted verbatim:
"To be in a wheelhouse would mean I am in a shelter on a ship. What YOU should have said is it is not my wheelhouse which would refer to my area of expertise."
You tried to correct my grammar. No denying it.

I never defended him. Not sure why you keep saying I was. Inflation is high right now and prices are too. I told you the prices I paid and pay for my 85/15 Angus and truth be told, I don't give a $*%* if you believe it or not. I told you MY solution for inflation and you ignored it. Just because you ignore something doesn't mean it didn't happen Robbie.

You made a statement that you are unable to support in any way other than saying you BELIEVE it is correct.

I am not off on tangents. You sure do make a lot of claims about what people are doing and then just run with it don't you.

OK, fine. Avoid the tangents. Tell us why you defended Mauch without knowing any facts about him or the tings he has done.
Tell us what the correct course of action is for you, Biden, or any president to make inflation drop faster than it already is.
Tell us the price of 85/15 Angus beef during the Trump presidency at the stores you named or shopped at.

Oh so now it is what would I do if I was the President. I am not interested in the job. However I would get Biden out of office and whomever gets in there should do the opposite of Biden.

"So now it is"? No, I've asked that multiple times in the past. I also asked what you think Biden or any other president should do.

$4.89lb. at one point.

No it wasn't. It was higher under Trump than it ever has been in history.
The best high price ever. $11 a pound.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I quoted YOUR words, where you did it.
So you're denying you posted those words? Sorry, but that doesn't change history.
Here are your words, quoted verbatim:
"To be in a wheelhouse would mean I am in a shelter on a ship. What YOU should have said is it is not my wheelhouse which would refer to my area of expertise."
You tried to correct my grammar. No denying it.

If I am IN A WHEELHOUSE then technically I am inside of a structure. You cannot deny that or argue it as it is a fact.

You made a statement that you are unable to support in any way other than saying you BELIEVE it is correct.

I did support it.

OK, fine. Avoid the tangents. Tell us why you defended Mauch without knowing any facts about him or the tings he has done.

This is like the 10th time you claim I defended him. At this point I believe you do not know the definition of "defend".

Tell us what the correct course of action is for you, Biden, or any president to make inflation drop faster than it already is.

Do the opposite of what Biden has/is done/doing.

Tell us the price of 85/15 Angus beef during the Trump presidency at the stores you named or shopped at.

I did already.

"So now it is"? No, I've asked that multiple times in the past. I also asked what you think Biden or any other president should do.

You asked what someone else would do and this last time asked what I would do as President... do you need me to quote your post for you?

No it wasn't. It was higher under Trump than it ever has been in history.
The best high price ever. $11 a pound.

LOL ok fella.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

If I am IN A WHEELHOUSE then technically I am inside of a structure. You cannot deny that or argue it as it is a fact.

Not literally, but you are flailing hopelessly like an upside-down turtle in the corner you have backed yourself into.

I did support it.

Saying you BELIEVE something is wrong with no reason or ability to explain why is not "supporting" anyhting.

This is like the 10th time you claim I defended him. At this point I believe you do not know the definition of "defend".

I'll say ti 10 more times. You tried to deny he did it. Denial is a defense mechanism. Ergo, when you deny, you are defending.

Do the opposite of what Biden has/is done/doing.

Yep. Cry and whine that no one will adult grownup discussions and conversation with you, but as soon as you are asked to speak about adult grownup topics, you act like a child.
We've got you figured out, Punky Brewster.

I did already.

The Big Lie. You, Trump, and Hitler seem to be fans of it.

You asked what someone else would do and this last time asked what I would do as President... do you need me to quote your post for you?

No, I actually asked as far back as last Thursday what you would do as president to make inflation drop faster that it already has.

LOL ok fella.

Aren't you happy ground beef is now HALF of what it cost under Trump?
$11 a pound seemed excessive back then.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Not literally, but you are flailing hopelessly like an upside-down turtle in the corner you have backed yourself into.

No, I am fine.

Saying you BELIEVE something is wrong with no reason or ability to explain why is not "supporting" anyhting.

I'll say ti 10 more times. You tried to deny he did it. Denial is a defense mechanism. Ergo, when you deny, you are defending.

I wouldn't TRY to defend someone. If I wanted to defend someone I just would.

Yep. Cry and whine that no one will adult grownup discussions and conversation with you, but as soon as you are asked to speak about adult grownup topics, you act like a child.
We've got you figured out, Punky Brewster.

It's my answer. It kills you that it's not what you want to hear.

The Big Lie. You, Trump, and Hitler seem to be fans of it.

No, I actually asked as far back as last Thursday what you would do as president to make inflation drop faster that it already has.
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Get Biden out and the next person needs to not do what Biden is doing or has done.

Aren't you happy ground beef is now HALF of what it cost under Trump?
$11 a pound seemed excessive back then.

LOL you kill me.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No, I am fine.

Some people love not to know.
Suit yourself.

I wouldn't TRY to defend someone. If I wanted to defend someone I just would.

Not how reality works. Pretty much everything we do is a try, resulting in success or failure.

It's my answer. It kills you that it's not what you want to hear.

Nah, just disappointing that you are a hypocrite.

Get Biden out and the next person needs to not do what Biden is doing or has done.

That's not a solution.
Just say you don't know, you really don't understand the economy and how it works, and you simply choose to complain based on your beliefs and not knowledge, and we can move on.

LOL you kill me.

Why? Don't you believe ground beef was $11/pound during the Trump administration?
If we post something here, it must be true. Right?
No need to prove anything, just live by the motto of "because I said so".
Or, is that methodology only allowed for you?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Some people love not to know.
Suit yourself.

Not how reality works. Pretty much everything we do is a try, resulting in success or failure.

This is a quitters way of looking at life. You either do something or you don't do it. When you do something and fail, people like you use the phrase "I tried" to make yourselves feel better for failing or as an excuse for not succeeding. 9 times out of 10 a person like you won't even get back in there and do it again. Failure is a part of life so there is no need to feel bad or make yourself feel better for failing. You learn from it.

Nah, just disappointing that you are a hypocrite.

That's not a solution.
Just say you don't know, you really don't understand the economy and how it works, and you simply choose to complain based on your beliefs and not knowledge, and we can move on.

Why? Don't you believe ground beef was $11/pound during the Trump administration?
If we post something here, it must be true. Right?
No need to prove anything, just live by the motto of "because I said so".
Or, is that methodology only allowed for you?

Aweee poor Robbie is melting into sarcasm.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

This is a quitters way of looking at life. You either do something or you don't do it. When you do something and fail, people like you use the phrase "I tried" to make yourselves feel better for failing or as an excuse for not succeeding. 9 times out of 10 a person like you won't even get back in there and do it again. Failure is a part of life so there is no need to feel bad or make yourself feel better for failing. You learn from it.

Interesting. So if you decide you will throw a 105MPH fastball, you have “done it” even if you can’t break 90MPH? And if you throw five more at decreasing speeds, you have "done it" in hitting the 105MPH mark?
Hmmm, maybe that's why you believe Trump "did it" when he claims he was POTUS for the best economy in the history of the world.

Hey, you should have seen me do that 30 foot long jump.
It was awesome.
After that, I did a 44 second lap on the Lime Rock Grand Prix circuit.
Also awesome.

Aweee poor Robbie is melting into sarcasm.

...he wrote with sarcasm, since he has been unable to answer three simple questions/requests asked of him MANY times over.
What were they?
Tell us your solution to make inflation drop faster than it currently is.
Show us the price of 85/15 Angus ground beef at the stores you named, where you shop, during the Trump administration.
Explain why you defended Loy Mauch by trying to deny what he did, without knowing a thing about him or the situation. Explain why you immediately decided that the info I shared about him was fabricated in order to support a narrative.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Interesting. So if you decide you will throw a 105MPH fastball, you have “done it” even if you can’t break 90MPH? And if you throw five more at decreasing speeds, you have "done it" in hitting the 105MPH mark?
Hmmm, maybe that's why you believe Trump "did it" when he claims he was POTIS for the best economy in the history of the world.

Hey, you should have seen me do that 30 foot long jump.
It was awesome.
After that, I did a 44 second lap on the Lime Rock Grand Prix circuit.
Also awesome.

At no time did I expect you to comprehend what I said. Thanks for the proof. Let me know if I can educate you.

...he wrote with sarcasm, since he has been unable to answer three simple questions/requests asked of him MANY times over.
What were they?
Tell us your solution to make inflation drop faster than it currently is.
Show us the price of 85/15 Angus ground beef at the stores you named, where you shop, during the Trump administration.
Explain why you defended Loy Mauch by trying to deny what he did, without knowing a thing about him or the situation. Explain why you immediately decided that the info I shared about him was fabricated in order to support a narrative.

All 3 topics have been covered. Your refusal to accept the answers and proof is all on you Gramps.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

At no time did I expect you to comprehend what I said. Thanks for the proof. Let me know if I can educate you.

You tried to educate me on the philosophy of achievement. You think you have achieved a goal simply because you tried. "You either do something or you don't do it."
The epitome of the "participation trophy" mentality.

Sorry kid, but if you try and do not succeed, you have failed.
No trophy for failing. If you did not succeed, you didn't "do it".

Try again and maybe you'll succeed.

All 3 topics have been covered. Your refusal to accept the answers and proof is all on you Gramps.

1. "Vote Biden out" is not a solution to speed up the currently declining rate of inflation. It's simply expecting someone else to fix the problem you are complaining about. The quitter's way.
Here, I'll give you some help: Of the relatively few things a POTUS can do to effect change in inflation, they could raise taxes and lower expenditures, or raise expenditures and lower taxes.
These are mutually exclusive.
Which one would you want to see Biden do?

2. You simply claimed that you were dubious of what Mauch said and did, but never said WHY you were dubious. You continued to do so without any due diligence. Instead, you spun off on multiple tangents and even tried a silly philosophical argument about whether things exist or happen if we don't personally see them or witness them.
Then, you decided that it really shouldn't MATTER that Mauch is a POS politician.

3. You simply claimed a price that you paid for beef. Then you provided a current price for two types of beef that are not the one you claimed to have bought.
In essence, you proved nothing about your claim.

These three things can sum up almost any debate/argument/discussion you have been involved with on the forum, in this sub, in this thread.
You are simply empty-handed and do tons of talking but there is absolutely no substance behind it.

Carry on.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You tried to educate me on the philosophy of achievement. You think you have achieved a goal simply because you tried. "You either do something or you don't do it."
The epitome of the "participation trophy" mentality.

Sorry kid, but if you try and do not succeed, you have failed.
No trophy for failing. If you did not succeed, you didn't "do it".

Try again and maybe you'll succeed.

That is your mentality. I already said you either do something or you don't. Thank you for repeating what I already said. It's not about trophies or all those labels you guys think everyone needs. It's about knowing your limits, not giving up and reaching your goals. Saying you tried is a defeatist attitude. You're giving yourself a way out.

1. "Vote Biden out" is not a solution to speed up the currently declining rate of inflation. It's simply expecting someone else to fix the problem you are complaining about. The quitter's way.
Here, I'll give you some help: Of the relatively few things a POTUS can do to effect change in inflation, they could raise taxes and lower expenditures, or raise expenditures and lower taxes.
These are mutually exclusive.
Which one would you want to see Biden do?

2. You simply claimed that you were dubious of what Mauch said and did, but never said WHY you were dubious. You continued to do so without any due diligence. Instead, you spun off on multiple tangents and even tried a silly philosophical argument about whether things exist or happen if we don't personally see them or witness them.
Then, you decided that it really shouldn't MATTER that Mauch is a POS politician.

3. You simply claimed a price that you paid for beef. Then you provided a current price for two types of beef that are not the one you claimed to have bought.
In essence, you proved nothing about your claim.

These three things can sum up almost any debate/argument/discussion you have been involved with on the forum, in this sub, in this thread.
You are simply empty-handed and do tons of talking but there is absolutely no substance behind it.

Carry on.

Again, your refusal to accept someone's answers does not mean they didn't answer. It is literally just a tactic you use to make yourself feel like you won something. Hey, at least you tried. Lol

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That is your mentality. I already said you either do something or you don't. Thank you for repeating what I already said. It's not about trophies or all those labels you guys think everyone needs. It's about knowing your limits, not giving up and reaching your goals. Saying you tried is a defeatist attitude. You're giving yourself a way out.

You either try and fail, or you try and succeed. You have to try for there to be an outcome, otherwise you have done nothing.
"try - to make an attempt"
It even applies to autonomic functions. When you sleep your body "tries" to breathe, and obviously succeeds. The body will do that if you are under water. It might succeed at the action, but will fail at drawing in air.
"Knowing your limits" intimates that you will only try things you KNOW you can succeed at.
Sounds a bit like quitting, to me.

Again, your refusal to accept someone's answers does not mean they didn't answer. It is literally just a tactic you use to make yourself feel like you won something. Hey, at least you tried. Lol

It's a lack of answers that I don't like. Especially from someone who lies and claims they provided answers, someone who complains that no one will have discussions or conversations with him, someone who simply makes up an answer that is patently false while claiming it is accurate.
Sounds like a quitter to me.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You either try and fail, or you try and succeed. You have to try for there to be an outcome, otherwise you have done nothing.
"try - to make an attempt"
It even applies to autonomic functions. When you sleep your body "tries" to breathe, and obviously succeeds. The body will do that if you are under water. It might succeed at the action, but will fail at drawing in air.
"Knowing your limits" intimates that you will only try things you KNOW you can succeed at.
Sounds a bit like quitting, to me.

Of course it sounds that way to you. You're a follower, not a doer. The body tries to breathe, it just breathes man. I have never shot a 50cal but I would do it. I wouldn't try to shoot it, I just would.

It's a lack of answers that I don't like.

I bet if you just accepted the answers people give you there wouldn't be a lack of answers.

Especially from someone who lies and claims they provided answers

See previous post.

, someone who complains that no one will have discussions or conversations with him

Never have I made that complaint Rob.

, someone who simply makes up an answer that is patently false while claiming it is accurate.

All answers are made up Rob.

Sounds like a quitter to me.

Stings don't it? When I hit your nerve. If you are offended by knowing you're a quitter then change that. You're allowed to improve yourself. Don't "try" to change, just do it.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Of course it sounds that way to you. You're a follower, not a doer. The body tries to breathe, it just breathes man. I have never shot a 50cal but I would do it. I wouldn't try to shoot it, I just would.

Unless you had a dud round, and then you would have tried and failed.
The body is trying, even if it is without your conscious thought or effort.
Your belief that trying equals succeeding says a lot.

I bet if you just accepted the answers people give you there wouldn't be a lack of answers.

Simply accepting as fact what people say sounds like a quitter's philosophy.

See previous post.

Never have I made that complaint Rob.

"Look at how you refuse any back and forth discussion"
"If you can't have an adult conversation without completely ignoring the other parties opinions then you should not engage in conversation."
"No it is beyond your ability to have a conversation that you didn't choose."
"I 100% want to have conversations but it is my opinion that what you do is not conversation. What you do is debate. Like I said, I am not here for debates,"

Of course, you will backpedal and say those are not complaints, just musings, or statements, or ideas. Your M.O.

All answers are made up Rob.

No. Afraid that's not how it works in the grownup world.
With grownups (and even many children), answers are reached by reasoning or deduction.
Maybe YOU just make them up. Maybe that's why you get them wrong a lot.

Stings don't it? When I hit your nerve. If you are offended by knowing you're a quitter then change that. You're allowed to improve yourself. Don't "try" to change, just do it.

Since you are very much not a quitter, how about you tell us your plan that would make inflation drop faster than it already is?
Tell us which option would be better if Biden did it: Raise taxes and reduce spending, or reduce taxes and increase spending.
Even better, tell us a few other things the POTUS could do, and which option you think would work out the best.

Tell us why you defended Loy Mauch without any knowledge of the situation.

Show us proof of the price of 85/15 Angus ground beef in 2017-2020 at the stores you shop in.
Show us how that ground beef deviated from the price movements of the more-common 80/20 ground beef during the same time frame.

Don't be a quitter; support your side of the conversation.