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[RobGMN Premium Member]

• Former NIAID Director Dr. Anthony Fauci and Former NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins were directly involved in the drafting, publication, and public promotion of Proximal Origin — a paper written to suppress the COVID-19 lab-leak hypothesis.
• There was a coordinated effort between public health officials in the United States government and expert scientists to craft a narrative that would advance the zoonotic origin of COVID-19 in order to protect the Chinese government from any potential criticism and repercussions.
• The conclusions drawn by the co-authors of “Proximal Origin” rest on insufficient evidence, draw inaccurate assumptions, and have never been proven or verified by the wider scientific community.
• Dr. Kristian Andersen confirmed the U.S. funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology fell below recommended bio-safety markers.
• Scientific integrity was abandoned by Dr. Fauci, Dr. Collins, and the co-authors of Proximal Origin in favor of political expediency. Suppressing a legitimate scientific theory to advance the preferred narrative of senior government officials is egregious and must be fully investigated.
• There is still more work to be done to hold public health officials accountable for their actions during the COVID-19 pandemic. The Select Subcommittee emphasizes its outstanding request for transcribed interviews and documents from Dr. Fauci and Dr. Collins.

I think this is a pretty good amount info here imo

It's circumstantial, and I see why it could lead one to think "yeah, it was leaked".
But Thxone's post about the CIA being dirty and so therefore they lied about this is circumstantial too.

It is on presidential record that Trump lied to the pulblic at least 21,000 times. Does that mean every single thing he ever said was a lie? No.
Trump used $10,000 in donations from his charity to buy a painting of himself. Does that mean he used every single donation in a way he should not have? No.

We have this, and we have the recent report done independently of Fauci, et al, that says there was no progenitor in the lab.
Which one do we accept?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

It's circumstantial, and I see why it could lead one to think "yeah, it was leaked".
But Thxone's post about the CIA being dirty and so therefore they lied about this is circumstantial too.

It is on presidential record that Trump lied to the pulblic at least 21,000 times. Does that mean every single thing he ever said was a lie? No.
Trump used $10,000 in donations from his charity to buy a painting of himself. Does that mean he used every single donation in a way he should not have? No.

I didn't say the CIA is dirty. It's their job to do the things it does. The CIA is protecting the government. Do you not get that??? Damn you are dumb. If the CIA says yup, we phucked up (we as in the U.S.) then what?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Even djdillodon (who doesn't agree with me) has shown you got this entirely wrong

Nope...he said if you would admit it's your opinion (which would not be based on fact) it would go away...

You haven't admitted that or proven the statement...so...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

LoL Rob says documented lies to the public. Scan this site Rob, they are calling it everything EXCEPT lies. I wonder why that is? Is it because they can prove a lie?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I didn't say the CIA is dirty. It's their job to do the things it does. The CIA is protecting the government. Do you not get that??? Damn you are dumb. If the CIA says yup, we phucked up (we as in the U.S.) then what?

"It is very well known what the CIA does. Cover-ups, propaganda, lies and so on."
OK. I consider lies to be "dirty", even when they are used for the greater good.

But you ask a good question. You said before that we can't blame China or it could start a war. What if the CIA & ODNI report DID say the lab was at fault? Would you want it suppressed?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I left floaters in your mom’s eyes

I swear you act like a child Matt, not a 35 y.o. Florida resident who moved there form Tennessee.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

"It is very well known what the CIA does. Cover-ups, propaganda, lies and so on."
OK. I consider lies to be "dirty", even when they are used for the greater good.

But you ask a good question. You said before that we can't blame China or it could start a war. What if the CIA & ODNI report DID say the lab was at fault? Would you want it suppressed?

Yeah, YOU consider lies to be dirty. Just say that next time instead of speaking for others.

I already asked that question, why are you going to ask me the same question... couldn't you just answer it. It is directed to you.

 

[djdilliodon!]

It's circumstantial, and I see why it could lead one to think "yeah, it was leaked".
But Thxone's post about the CIA being dirty and so therefore they lied about this is circumstantial too.

It is on presidential record that Trump lied to the pulblic at least 21,000 times. Does that mean every single thing he ever said was a lie? No.
Trump used $10,000 in donations from his charity to buy a painting of himself. Does that mean he used every single donation in a way he should not have? No.

We have this, and we have the recent report done independently of Fauci, et al, that says there was no progenitor in the lab.
Which one do we accept?

Let’s be clear that most evidence will be circumstantial and via testimony as you ain’t going into China to get it at this point and if you do, it’s long gone by now. I doubt we will ever get the truth but mark my words if China makes its move on Tawain, Imo that lab leak will have all the evidence you need

As far as politicians lying goes, they all lie. From Biden lying about his college education to plagiarizing other people’s speeches to trump saying Mexico will pay for a wall. Some of it is true deceit and some of it is to get your base riled up. Lying is lying and it’s all part of the game of politics.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

LoL Rob says documented lies to the public. Scan this site Rob, they are calling it everything EXCEPT lies. I wonder why that is? Is it because they can prove a lie?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

lie - a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive
A false claim is a lie. A deliberately misleading claim is a lie.

Answer honestly. Did Trump lie when he said this?
“We also built the greatest economy in the history of the world…Powered by these policies, we built the greatest economy in the history of the world.”

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Let’s be clear that most evidence will be circumstantial and via testimony as you ain’t going into China to get it at this point and if you do, it’s long gone by now. I doubt we will ever get the truth but mark my words if China makes its move on Tawain, Imo that lab leak will have all the evidence you need

As far as politicians lying goes, they all lie. From Biden lying about his college education to plagiarizing other people’s speeches to trump saying Mexico will pay for a wall. Some of it is true deceit and some of it is to get your base riled up. Lying is lying and it’s all part of the game of politics.

You can tell they are lying by their lips moving.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

lie - a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive
A false claim is a lie. A deliberately misleading claim is a lie.

Since you can't prove any of that you too should stop calling them lies.

Answer honestly. Did Trump lie when he said this?
“We also built the greatest economy in the history of the world…Powered by these policies, we built the greatest economy in the history of the world.”

As much as you think the economy is better under democrats.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Yeah, YOU consider lies to be dirty. Just say that next time instead of speaking for others.

I already asked that question, why are you going to ask me the same question... couldn't you just answer it. It is directed to you.

I will accept that when you call someone a liar, you don't consider it to be a negative or "dirty" or anything synonymous with those terms.
Thank you for clarifying.

But now you're back to NOT wanting your words to be interpreted by the reader.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I will accept that when you call someone a liar, you don't consider it to be a negative or "dirty" or anything synonymous with those terms.
Thank you for clarifying.

But now you're back to NOT wanting your words to be interpreted by the reader.

I made no clarification. I told you not to speak for me. Stupid.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So when are you gonna admit you are wrong about all viruses being natural, f@ggot?

Settle down, Matt. it's easy to be a tough guy on the internet while you lie in bed shitting your Depends, but would be a lot tougher if you tried that to someone's face.
Maybe you can have the opportunity the next time I'm in your area.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Settle down, Matt. it's easy to be a tough guy on the internet while you lie in bed shitting your Depends, but would be a lot tougher if you tried that to someone's face.
Maybe you can have the opportunity the next time I'm in your area.

Or while trolling a car audio website. Rob.