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[RobGMN Premium Member]

This isn’t a criminal trial. Its just obviously a political takedown. I don’t like Trump either, but I just don’t see any actual evidence at all. I see a priveleged white liberal taking down a political enemy, and liberals all around me telling me evidence is the case itself. I don’t see that as evidence. It’s not like I’m ever voting for Trump or Biden anyway, so I guess maybe I’m not partisan enough anymore for this game.

Correct. it was a civil trial.
Do you have a copy of her testimony? Did they release it yet? That would be the evidence you are looking for.
Evidence is more than a smoking gun, photo, video, DNA samples. Testimony itself is evidence. This case was judged by preponderance of evidence.
The jury judged on preponderance of evidence and accepted her testimony to be credible enough to judge against Trump.

Are you thinking maybe the jury was tampered with in order to give her the win? Maybe Trump's attorney chose jury members who would pass judgement against him? Maybe he was in on the scam?

My point exactly. You’ve convicted him of **** already in your mind. where’s your thought pattern to get to this point?

When did I convict him of ****? The only thing I have said all along is that there is far more evidence of him being a ****** than there is is of Biden being a *********.
Remember: His own wife accused him of raping her, and a 13 y.o. girl brought a case against him for raping her.

 

[SlugButter]

Correct. it was a civil trial.
Do you have a copy of her testimony? Did they release it yet? That would be the evidence you are looking for.
Evidence is more than a smoking gun, photo, video, DNA samples. Testimony itself is evidence. This case was judged by preponderance of evidence.
The jury judged on preponderance of evidence and accepted her testimony to be credible enough to judge against Trump.

Are you thinking maybe the jury was tampered with in order to give her the win? Maybe Trump's attorney chose jury members who would pass judgement against him? Maybe he was in on the scam?


When did I convict him of ****? The only thing I have said all along is that there is far more evidence of him being a ****** than there is is of Biden being a *********.
Remember: His own wife accused him of raping her, and a 13 y.o. girl brought a case against him for raping her.

Where is the evidence of this? I’d really like to read what you’ve read.

 

[SlugButter]

Why do liberals always compare Biden to Trump? If they’re both douchebags, what good does that do? The standards we have for our representatives is pathetic.

 

[SlugButter]

Is there a chart on google for the amount of times and ages of the individuals Trump has *****?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Where is the evidence of this? I’d really like to read what you’ve read.

As far as I know, they have not released a transcript of her testimony. THAT is the evidence in this trial.
If you want to see the evidence, you need to read that transcript.

I have not read or seen her testimony. As I said, I am accepting that the jury did the job assigned to them by the judge, Trump's attorney, and Carroll's attorney.

 

[SlugButter]

As far as I know, they have not released a transcript of her testimony. THAT is the evidence in this trial.
If you want to see the evidence, you need to read that transcript.

I have not read or seen her testimony. As I said, I am accepting that the jury did the job assigned to them by the judge, Trump's attorney, and Carroll's attorney.

Then I’m sure when Trump wins the appeal you will accept the decision……

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Is there a chart on google for the amount of times and ages of the individuals Trump has *****?

Not sure what that means. The accusation by Ivana is public record, as is the info about the accusation by the 13 y.o.

 

[SlugButter]

Not sure what that means. The accusation by Ivana is public record, as is the info about the accusation by the 13 y.o.

Where is this? I want to read what you’ve read and see if I come to the same conclusion. All the stuff I see is not government websites, its just political puff pieces.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Then I’m sure when Trump wins the appeal you will accept the decision……

Are you sure he is going to win the appeal, sure that I will accept it if he does, or both?

What do you suppose the argument will be to support the appeal and give him a win?

 

[SlugButter]

Are you sure he is going to win the appeal, sure that I will accept it if he does, or both?

What do you suppose the argument will be to support the appeal and give him a win?

Wait. You said that all that was needed in this case was testimony, yet you have not even read the testimony nor have provided any actual transcripts from the trial itself. What was the point of arguing for pages and pages on this forum if you have no actual information on the trial? If it’s just stating your point of view, I can accept that. I don’t like Trump as a person either. This just isn’t a debate I’m willing to spend time with if you have nothing to contribute. I can go read the public information myself and draw my own conclusions, which I’ve already done. I don’t need you for that. Is internet searches based on your own bias and paid websites all you have?

 

[SlugButter]

I think Rob will believe anything and everything said about any republicans wether it’s true or not. That’s what hate does. It allows a liberal to defend another liberal regardless of how horrible they are, as they persecute the adversary in the name of virtue. It allows a congregation to defend a priest even when they are horrible in the name of virtue. Virtue has become a weapon, and that weapon is being used to take all our freedoms, liberal and conservative.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Where is this? I want to read what you’ve read and see if I come to the same conclusion. All the stuff I see is not government websites, its just political puff pieces.

She (Ivana) said it under oath during a deposition for their divorce settlement. I do not have the deposition, but I believe they were unsealed. There are literally hundreds of references to it if you do a quick search. I haven't found any instances where Trump denied what she accused him of, though he pleaded the 5th ninety-seven times in their divorce case when asked if he cheated on her.

The court case of the accusations regarding him and a 13 y.o. girl: Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA
Seen in the Southern District of New York.

He was also accused by a business associate (Jill Harth) and some 22 other women in the past 40 years.

 

[SlugButter]

We are all good people, and our virtues are being used against us, so the ones without virtue can take what’s ours. I don’t accept the new liberalism. I don’t accept the old conservatism.

 

[SlugButter]

She (Ivana) said it under oath during a deposition for their divorce settlement. I do not have the deposition, but I believe they were unsealed. There are literally hundreds of references to it if you do a quick search. I haven't found any instances where Trump denied what she accused him of, though he pleaded the 5th ninety-seven times in their divorce case when asked if he cheated on her.

The court case of the accusations regarding him and a 13 y.o. girl: Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA
Seen in the Southern District of New York.

He was also accused by a business associate (Jill Harth) and some 22 other women in the past 40 years.

This is the same lady that supports him to this day? I’m Not sure I believe you’ve read public documents, I can’t find them. I think you read a website that too,d you what to believe.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I think Rob will believe anything and everything said about any republicans wether it’s true or not. That’s what hate does. It allows a liberal to defend another liberal regardless of how horrible they are, as they persecute the adversary in the name of virtue. It allows a congregation to defend a priest even when they are horrible in the name of virtue. Virtue has become a weapon, and that weapon is being used to take all our freedoms, liberal and conservative.

Are you suggesting that I disbelieve that the jury made the correct decision simply because Trump is a Republican? If he was a Democrat, would the decision then have been proper and correct?

I'm not sure how a congregation defending a dirty priest ties in to Trump losing this case that was decided on by a jury.
Do you think the jury was tainted in some way?